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Old 04-07-2013, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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Interstates were built to the same standards, but notice how speed limits vary from state-to-state for revenue generation purposes?
The original interstate specifications were pretty uniform. Nut the standards to which they have been maintained and particuilarly expanded have little to do with the original. That is why they are no longer safe at the original speeds.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:34 PM
 
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Traffic fines have nothing to do with safety. It they did, the penalty for speedling would be $1000+. The way to fix this highway robbery is to take the money out of the equation.
You don't need a physics degree to realize slower speeds lead to fewer accidents and fatalities. Your anti-government hysteria blinds you from this obvious truth.

The reason the fines aren't so high like you say is there is not that much difference in safety between 65 and 75 mph. However, you've gotta draw the line somewhere. Punishments do escalate drastically at a certain amount over the limit (varying by state).
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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You don't need a physics degree to realize slower speeds lead to fewer accidents and fatalities.

Fatalities on US highways went down after the 55mph speed limit was abolished.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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Fatalities on US highways went down after the 55mph speed limit was abolished.
Are you sure you are quoting fatalities versus accidents? The number of accidents may go down at the same time the number of facilities per accident goes up. I am a firm believer in the phrase SPEED - KILLS!.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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Are you sure you are quoting fatalities versus accidents? The number of accidents may go down at the same time the number of facilities per accident goes up. I am a firm believer in the phrase SPEED - KILLS!.

If speed kills, why am I still alive?
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Beavercreek, OH
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If speed kills, why am I still alive?
Hi ram2--

Speed never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: In a happy place
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Then why can I now legally drive 70mph on the very same roads where the speed limit used to be 55mph? It was safe and legal to drive 75mph on the Ohio Turnpike in 1973. Why is it unsafe to drive that speed now?

Traffic fines have nothing to do with safety. It they did, the penalty for speedling would be $1000+. The way to fix this highway robbery is to take the money out of the equation.
I don't know which Ohio Turnpike you were driving legally at 75 mph, but it wasn't the one that crosses the northern part of Ohio.

The history of Ohio's speed limit from 35 mph to 70 mph: Statistical Snapshot | cleveland.com

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Here’s a history of Ohio’s top speed limits.
1926 -- 35 mph
1940 -- 45 mph
1941 -- 50 mph
1942 -- 35 mph (x)
1945 -- 50 mph
1958 -- 60 mph
1963 -- 70 mph
1974 -- 55 mph (y)

1987 -- 65 mph
2011 -- 70 mph
x - Speed limit reduced as a fuel savings during World War II
y - Speed limit reduced during energy crisis as a fuel savings
Source: Ohio Insurance Institute
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:04 PM
 
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Maybe this will help the argument.

List of motor vehicle deaths in U.S. by year - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:03 AM
 
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Correlation does not equal causation. Cars have gotten much, much safer during this time along with strict enforcement of seat-belt and DUI violations greatly outweigh any added danger from driving faster.

It may not matter all that much for us anyways, as our self-driving Google cars will soon drive 120 MPH while we watch the morning news on our ride to work.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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I don't know which Ohio Turnpike you were driving legally at 75 mph, but it wasn't the one that crosses the northern part of Ohio.

The history of Ohio's speed limit from 35 mph to 70 mph: Statistical Snapshot | cleveland.com


I guess those "Speed Limit 75" signs I saw in the early 70s along the Ohio Turnpike were imaginary. That was 75 for all vehicles, no split speed limit silliness like many states have now.

Even Kjbrill knows the speed limit used to be 75 on the turnpike.
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