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02-09-2009, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker_Fan
I only made this post because I was among the many that voted against the Cincinnati transit proposal back in 2002. But after I have seen how great the light rail can be (particuarly when I want to go see a ball game) I can't help but think that a good light rail system wouldn't have been just what Cincinnati needs to help rebuild its downtown and urban areas. I hope that people change their mind and vote it in someday -- but if not at least I can enjoy it here in the twin cities!
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...If it was up to vote again, I would vote against it.
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02-09-2009, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hartwell Girl
...If it was up to vote again, I would vote against it.
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Even after the $4 gas wake up call this summer?
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02-09-2009, 09:28 AM
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Even after the $4 gas wake up call this summer?
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You don't understand, some people just have a "me" mentality. If it doesn't help them directly they won't support it. Regardless of the thousands a Light Rail system would help get to work quickly and cheaply. For some people there just is no greater good.
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02-09-2009, 09:35 AM
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^provincial cincinnati
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02-09-2009, 09:47 AM
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I dont have a "me" mentality. I understand building the core of the City but as someone who lives in one of the Cities neighborhoods, I have seen millions pumped into downtown and not so much in the neighborhoods. Yes, I am concerned about neighborhoods improving so that tax base can increase and help the City, but also to keep people and families IN the City in safe, clean and functioning neighborhoods.
As far as the $4 a gallon gas, I shop locally, I walk when I can, and I support neighborhood businesses instead of driving to a walmart or eat out. We have tightened our own belts, use coupons to the point where if I dont have a coupon or if it not on sale, we dont get it. Sure there are things we want, but we are sticking to things we need. And if I wanted to get around, I would ride the bus because it serves my area and many others already.
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02-09-2009, 09:58 AM
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^theoretically, if the city proposed this:
-Streetcar from downtown to uptown
-Uptown
-Spur to Westside serving Price Hill with stops in Westwood
-Spur along Reading Rd neighborhoods north to city boundaries
-Spur through Eastside
Roughly $800 million
and the county proposes separately:
LRT along 71 corridor
LRT along 75 corridor to Dayton
LRT to airport
Roughly 800 million paid by Hamilton County
Would you be in favor, Hartwell Girl?
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02-09-2009, 10:01 AM
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Please?
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Originally Posted by Hartwell Girl
I dont have a "me" mentality. I understand building the core of the City but as someone who lives in one of the Cities neighborhoods, I have seen millions pumped into downtown and not so much in the neighborhoods. Yes, I am concerned about neighborhoods improving so that tax base can increase and help the City, but also to keep people and families IN the City in safe, clean and functioning neighborhoods.
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Providing quick transportation downtown and to points along the rail route wouldn't encourage people to stay within the city neighborhoods? Rail transportation encourages development and residency at each station. Rail would ease traffic not only downtown, but also in the neighborhoods as cars come off the road at rush hour. And getting a few loud and smelly buses off the road in favor of whisper-quiet, low-emission trains certainly would go a long way to make every neighborhood cleaner.
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02-09-2009, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81
Providing quick transportation downtown and to points along the rail route wouldn't encourage people to stay within the city neighborhoods? Rail transportation encourages development and residency at each station. Rail would ease traffic not only downtown, but also in the neighborhoods as cars come off the road at rush hour. And getting a few loud and smelly buses off the road in favor of whisper-quiet, low-emission trains certainly would go a long way to make every neighborhood cleaner.
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
HartwellGirl, LRT helps the city as a whole, not just the urban core. Do this ... take a map of early Cincy and its neighborhoods and then take a map of the old streetcar system ... what pattern do you see?
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02-09-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise
You took the words right out of my mouth.
HartwellGirl, LRT helps the city as a whole, not just the urban core. Do this ... take a map of early Cincy and its neighborhoods and then take a map of the old streetcar system ... what pattern do you see?
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Especially when you look at the neighbhorhood business districts. they were almost all located around streetcar transfer points.
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02-09-2009, 12:40 PM
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Cant I just agree to disagree?
No matter what I think, this project is going to happen anyway. It has the support of council and when that happens, there is not much anyone who feels differently can do but just deal with it.
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