Crime... (Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chickasaw: crime rate, home, neighborhoods)

[jicle]

Comparred to Cleveland, how is crim in Cincinatti?

[jlrosen]

less crime in cincinnati

[UncleRando]

Less...far less.

[jicle]

Does Cincinatti have its bad areas?

[jlrosen]

of course, everywhere does. downtown is safe. avondale has the highest violent crime, westwood has the highest number of part one crimes but also the highest population

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by jicle

Comparred to Cleveland, how is crim in Cincinatti?

Statistically speaking, there is no difference, see for yourself below.

I have a degree in law enforcement (not criminal justice), 16 weeks at a police academy, 8 weeks of advanced investigative training, was detective sergeant, was a private investigator (in fact I was the OAPDA Investigator of the Year) and have worked with police departments in several different countries and states.

In my personal and professional opinion, Cincinnati has one of the worst police departments. They don't do their job, which is why the crime rate is appalling for a city of this size.

I could cut the crime rate by 50%, and reduce the size of the police department down to about 900 or less.

[streetcreed]

Lol, the responses here are just great!

"less far less"

nothing more than three lines?

How are you so sure? Did you conduct a study? If you did wouldn't you have said something to prove your point other than "less."

I think that those simple, unthought answers demonstrates the level of thought and debate that occurs in Cincinnati.

[Linda Pratt]

Originally Posted by Mircea

In my personal and professional opinion, Cincinnati has one of the worst police departments. They don't do their job, which is why the crime rate is appalling for a city of this size.

The police in Cincinnati aren't allowed to do their jobs!

[jlrosen]

Originally Posted by streetcreed

Lol, the responses here are just great!

"less far less"

nothing more than three lines?

How are you so sure? Did you conduct a study? If you did wouldn't you have said something to prove your point other than "less."

I think that those simple, unthought answers demonstrates the level of thought and debate that occurs in Cincinnati.

I looked at the uniform fbi crime statistics, cincinnati has about 40% violent fewer crimes per capita (cincy 3766 crimes/ 332k people) (cleve 7004 crimes / 452k people).

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by Linda Pratt

The police in Cincinnati aren't allowed to do their jobs!

Sure they are. I've run a police precinct. What deters crime is a police presence, and in Cincinnati, there is none. A few years back I live on Chickasaw, and the neighbors complained at the town council meeting of petty vandalism (key striping, broken side mirrors, slashed tires), smash and grabs, and burglaries/larcenies. I have a time-lapsed video that shows one police car on the street in 7 days and he was driving over 50 miles an hour (I measured the chain link fence across the street -- Distance/Time = Speed). The patrol logs showed he was backing up a call on Central Parkway, so he definitely wasn't patrolling.

For our efforts in complaining, we all got tickets. It's a city ordinance that you can't be parked on the street for more than 12 hours, and parking on Chickasaw is at a premium. They came by one night, chalked everyone's tires, then came back 12 hours later and started writing tickets.

If you don't know the names of the 4-5 police officers who should be patrolling your street, then you shouldn't be wondering why you don't, you should be asking them why you don't. If the police were properly managed and executing proper patrol tactics and techniques, a police vehicle should pass your home not less than twice in an 8 hour period, and one of those times should be on foot, so that you can meet and talk with them.

The sad fact is that the city is into the federal government for funding to defray the cost of its overly huge police department. The funding, especially for the drug thing, requires a showing of progress each year to maintain funding, meaning it requires more and more drug arrests, and that has led the police to abandon the neighborhoods (resulting in increased crime) in order to patrol the main drags to make traffic stops in hopes of getting a drug bust. That has led to charges of "racial profiling." Whether it is or isn't, I don't know. I'm not sure profiling in general is a valid technique, and I'm not sure it's ethical, even if it would be a valid technique.

You're paying taxes for police protection, and you ought to get it, all the time, not just once in a blue moon.