12-08-2013, 05:09 PM
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Well, the Textile Industry in this country is gone. Went abroad. I think this proves my point. Good paying jobs have been replaced by cheap paying service industry jobs.
BTW. Do you even know anyone that owns a manufacturing company or at least works in a managerial capacity at one?
And since when does new technology equate with an advance in either lifestyle or in this case business? It is nothing of the sort. Look at how many computers (PC and main framses) malfunction on a daily basis. Leads to chaos at some companies and business comes to a grinding halt.
sigh. . .it's tiresome having to correct someone so confused. Where to start. . .where to start. . .
A step at a time, try to keep up.
1. Luddites were ENGLISH, not American textile artisans.
2. They protested technology - not cheap competition abroad.
3. Rise of technology has NOTHING to do with American not having a textile industry (if it did, America would be the leader). These are completely separate issues.
So, no your point has not been made.
4. Had Luddites had their way, the British textile industry would have been doomed hundreds of years before cheap labor over seas took it because the Luddites demanded the factories continue antiquated handlooming and smashed the automated looms.
As a parallel - you are suggesting that drones should be stopped to save delivery jobs.
This makes you a neo-luddite.
Keeping up? Should I use smaller words?
OK - finally - yeah, I know people who work for large manufactures including Boeing, Lockheed and other manufactures of highly technical and highly complex aircraft. They have fabulous jobs.
Oh, and I never made any claim that new technology ALWAYS equates with advances in lifestyle or business. But you'd have to be completely ignorant to not recognize that the sweep of history and advancement of technology has us capable of so much more productivity and afforded us tremendous leisures and luxuries that were beyond the grasp of people to even imagine, yet experience, not very long ago.
12-08-2013, 05:12 PM
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I own three different brands of GPS for my car. All are not perfect when it comes to finding an address.
Sometimes they can be off as little as a hundred yards with an address and at other times they will be off blocks or even miles.
Sounds like you need new GPS. Sorry.
GPS can be accurate to inches. The US military has phased it out to make it slightly less accurate for defense purposes, but that has and is changing. In the last 5 years I've not seen a singly quality GPS that was off by more than a few feet, let alone yards, yet alone blocks or miles.
12-08-2013, 05:32 PM
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Drones are already in use for lots of things. Ive been using a small helicopter type drone with camera for over a year. If I need to check out the condition of a roof or flashing or to see if a chimney needs tuckpointing or for that matter if the gutters are clogged up, I just power it up and review the video feed.
Saves me a lot of time not on a ladder!
12-08-2013, 06:56 PM
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sigh. . .it's tiresome having to correct someone so confused. Where to start. . .where to start. . .
A step at a time, try to keep up.
1. Luddites were ENGLISH, not American textile artisans.
2. They protested technology - not cheap competition abroad.
3. Rise of technology has NOTHING to do with American not having a textile industry (if it did, America would be the leader). These are completely separate issues.
So, no your point has not been made.
4. Had Luddites had their way, the British textile industry would have been doomed hundreds of years before cheap labor over seas took it because the Luddites demanded the factories continue antiquated handlooming and smashed the automated looms.
As a parallel - you are suggesting that drones should be stopped to save delivery jobs.
This makes you a neo-luddite.
Keeping up? Should I use smaller words?
OK - finally - yeah, I know people who work for large manufactures including Boeing, Lockheed and other manufactures of highly technical and highly complex aircraft. They have fabulous jobs.
Oh, and I never made any claim that new technology ALWAYS equates with advances in lifestyle or business. But you'd have to be completely ignorant to not recognize that the sweep of history and advancement of technology has us capable of so much more productivity and afforded us tremendous leisures and luxuries that were beyond the grasp of people to even imagine, yet experience, not very long ago.
Look at what the nuclear industry is doing to the world. The point is the same regardless of where the jobs were lost.
What people like you fail to grasp is that an economy is a lot like an ecosystem. Fragile. I has many interwoven parts that integrate well together to form a food chain of sorts. Right now the middle class, lower middle class and even the working poor are being squeezed out of their jobs and also homes. Many of these people do not possess the ability or skills to take on more advanced jobs.
You sir are more ignorant than you realize. And a a condescending elitist to boot.
12-08-2013, 07:02 PM
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I should add that Forest Gump er Gore claimed NAFTA and GATT were going to really help create new jobs in this country. Well, these drones are going to create chaos in the skies and on our streets.
12-08-2013, 07:17 PM
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Sounds like you need new GPS. Sorry.
GPS can be accurate to inches. The US military has phased it out to make it slightly less accurate for defense purposes, but that has and is changing. In the last 5 years I've not seen a singly quality GPS that was off by more than a few feet, let alone yards, yet alone blocks or miles.
There is no such thing as a GPS that is 100 percent perfect all the time. Doesn't exist. The shift in the earth's crust leads to changes in global positioning almost daily. If updates are not make and are not accurate then you should be able to see what will happen.
The Germans were very proud of their V1 and V2 rockets. Anyone that knows history realizes way too many did not hit their intended targets.
Another thing to ponder. People are going to learn how to hack into the guidance system of these drones and they may not only be skyjacked but could easily be redirected to hit people or buildings.
And what if a customer needs a box put inside the door or on a doorstep out of the way of weather? Doubt a drone can do that.
Bad idea all around.
12-08-2013, 08:00 PM
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It will be here in a decade. I see it working something like this:
-a (possibly driverless) truck drives into the neighborhood and releases a dozen (or more) drones up into the air.
-houses equipped with special mailboxes in the windows have RF transmitters that exchange navigation and "signature" info with the drones.
-drones fly back to the truck and pick up the next package.
This is not even new tech. The only thing missing is inexpensive batteries that can be rapidly charged. When I worked at a national lab I went to a number of DARPA meetings, and the stuff that they were working on, 6 years ago, was generations past this. I estimate drone delivery of small packages and takeout food will be here in a decade, and in twenty years there will be drones delivering heavy packages and possibly even airlifting injured people to hospitals. There might even be personal assistant drones that go to the store and do shopping for you.
The tech will come to other countries before the US because of political pressure from teamsters or other unions, but they won't be able to delay the implementation long.
12-08-2013, 08:17 PM
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In addition to what you say, Chemistry_Guy, I guess it could work - by performing extensive inventories of all structures in a flight path, utility wiring and fixtures, etc. - all obstructions that can be encountered - and databasing the information in order to feed into onboard computers on the drones that pilot them automatically. In other words, you'd need extensive mapping of the typical city or suburban environment, in 3D, as part of the flight control. Yeah, sensors should be able to take care of it. But from a legal viewpoint you reduce liability risks as much as possible.
Regarding the rude trolling about the term Luddite - "Luddite" has become the standard retort for pushback against any technology for any reason. Stating that it's only about employment is ridiculously narrow. The colloquial understanding of Luddite among those I have corresponded with and read is that it is used to mean anti-technology advancement.
12-08-2013, 08:22 PM
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There is no such thing as a GPS that is 100 percent perfect all the time. Doesn't exist. The shift in the earth's crust leads to changes in global positioning almost daily. If updates are not make and are not accurate then you should be able to see what will happen.
The Germans were very proud of their V1 and V2 rockets. Anyone that knows history realizes way too many did not hit their intended targets.
Another thing to ponder. People are going to learn how to hack into the guidance system of these drones and they may not only be skyjacked but could easily be redirected to hit people or buildings.
And what if a customer needs a box put inside the door or on a doorstep out of the way of weather? Doubt a drone can do that.
Bad idea all around.
You're comparing the first rockets made, 60 year old technology, in an era before computers and satellite communications, in an era where everything was analogue, where they took their best guess at trajectory...to modern GPS systems? Wow.
12-08-2013, 08:33 PM
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These things will be just like scud missiles. Wait to see how they work in heavy rain, high wind, hail or snow.
Modern Guidance systems are not 100 percent accurate. Ask anyone in the Navy just how accurate those Guided Missile systems are.
I am hardly anti technology. Just poorly thought out technology. These drones will get hit by lightning, grounded by the afformentioned weather problems and will suffer from mechanical breakdowns that will lead to a myriad of problems.
And what about the potential for violating a person's private property? Only a collectivist that looks down on personal rights or freedoms could possibly like this concept. Those things are going to fly over your property, in it etc. Get ready for some lawsuits when they hit things they should not, scare pets and buzz people etc.
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Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)