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Old 12-08-2007, 04:43 PM
 
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Question Should Cincinnati Secede from Ohio?

Having grown up in Cincinnati, I can't help but notice that Cincinnati shares pretty much nothing in common with the rest of the state of Ohio. Culture, sports interest (we could care less about Ohio state, etc.), physical landscape, political views, weather, everything is totally different down in that muddy river valley. Geographically it is part of the outer blue grass region of the United States (Bluegrass region - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).


So, I thought I'd poll the rest of Ohio: If it were possible (obviously its not and this is hypothetical), should the 'nati either become its own nation-state (like DC) or become absorbed by Kentucky? Would anyone else in Ohio care or would it be more a feeling of "good ridence"... What are your thoughts?
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Old 12-08-2007, 04:50 PM
 
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yall seem the same to me
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Old 12-08-2007, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Wake Forest
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Having grown up in Cincinnati, I can't help but notice that Cincinnati shares pretty much nothing in common with the rest of the state of Ohio. Culture, sports interest (we could care less about Ohio state, etc.), physical landscape, political views, weather, everything is totally different down in that muddy river valley. Geographically it is part of the outer blue grass region of the United States (Bluegrass region - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).


So, I thought I'd poll the rest of Ohio: If it were possible (obviously its not and this is hypothetical), should the 'nati either become its own nation-state (like DC) or become absorbed by Kentucky? Would anyone else in Ohio care or would it be more a feeling of "good ridence"... What are your thoughts?
To be honest, I've always thought that the entire state south of Columbus was different enough that it needed to be it's own state. North Ohio and South Ohio if you will.

Cincinnati could become part of Kentucky, and most folks in the northern part of the state wouldn't even notice.
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Old 12-09-2007, 01:14 AM
 
Location: California
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Default Northeast Ohio would be tickled pink if Cincy defected

The right wingers in the southwest are in lock-step in a march backwards.
Finally, Ohio could move in a more progressive direction.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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Warren county should have built a massive wall on it's southern boundary years ago.
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Far from where I'd like to be
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From the newspaper and TV news, when I first moved to Cincinnati, I became mighty confused over whether I still lived in Ohio or not. My address said so, but I couldn't figure out why the TV and newspapers covered happenings in Kentucky with more detail than happenings in Ohio. I had to read the Dayton Daily News or the Plain Dealer to find out what TIIC were up to in Columbus.

A separate state all its own would probably be the best option -- although, despite the Southern/Appalachian influences, Cincinnati is still very much Midwestern.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Suburban-sprawl hell (Columbus)
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Thumbs up Let's do it!

If y'all are gonna secede...please, wait for me! I want to join you!

I agree with those above who've said Northern and Southern Ohio are like two separate states.

But I for one, love Southern Ohio and am proud to be from down yonder. Socially, culturally and politically, I feel a much stronger affinity with Cincinnati—and Kentucky!—than I ever have or ever will feel with anyplace north of I-70.

No longer being connected to socialist Cleveland would be very nice, indeed.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:46 AM
 
Location: A Valley in Oregon
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What an interesting proposition.
Years ago, I thought Cincy should be a different state - it's light-years ahead of the rest of Ohio ... but then again, Ohio could be split many ways: Columbus & Cleveland are kind of like what used to be called "cowtowns" - which included places like St. Louis - and so, the entire western half was different. The north-eastern quadrant was taken up by a "different" breed so we had the east-west split with the south also being different so, it would be like chopping a pie into 6 pieces.
Now-a-days, however, Cincy has fallen off-track and is no longer light-years ahead of the state - having relapsed into a pre-WWII condition ... but I've never thought it would be fair to put it in Kentucky. Kentucky was kind of cool all along - especially Newport - so, why damage Kentuck?
There are, incidentally, plenty of "Buckeye" fans in Cincy - they'd all love to be Wildcat fans ... if the Wildcats could just put together a few national titles and I, myself, have been stuck with being a Bengals fan since their inception - no matter where I live in the country even though I grew up as a Browns fan (there were no Bengals then).
So, let me counter propose a proposal I made over utah years ago which involved splitting Utah equally among all the neighboring states:
Michigan wants a little bit of farmland - that's all - up in the northwest so I say, start at Sandusky and give them a section down to Finlay and over to Bryant. Leave Cleveland alone - they're either making great strides these days or convincing folks that they are. Give Ashtabula, Akron, Steubenville, etc to Pennsylvania ... but build a WALL to keep them all "over there"; I don't know what to do with Lancaster, Logan, etc but maybe include it in a package and give it all to West Virginia - they still know how to treat folks right - keep Portsmouth in Ohio, keep Columbus in Ohio, keep Marion and Delaware in Ohio. Give Dayton and the surrounding area to Indiana in exchange for tickets to the Colts games and the Brickyard 400 and make Cincy it's own, independent state ... and in response to a prior poster's snide remark, just build that wall around Lebanon and call it a "no-man's land" ... which it is, anyway
but don't saddle Kentucky with Cincy. The Cincy of the 60's yes but not the Cincy of today.
And now that I've made so many friends in Warren county and NE Ohio, I'm gonna beat-feet straight outta here! Peace
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Suburban-sprawl hell (Columbus)
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Thumbs up Cool, that'd work...

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I don't know what to do with Lancaster, Logan, etc but maybe include it in a package and give it all to West Virginia - they still know how to treat folks right
Hilarious! And you know what? I'd be fine with that too West Virginia is a beautiful state. Her people are proud and independent-spirited, not all fussy or uptight like city folk. And yes, they do still know how to treat folks right: it's that old-fashioned concept of friendliness.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:40 PM
 
Location: A Valley in Oregon
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Hilarious! And you know what? I'd be fine with that too West Virginia is a beautiful state. Her people are proud and independent-spirited, not all fussy or uptight like city folk. And yes, they do still know how to treat folks right: it's that old-fashioned concept of friendliness.
Cool, glad you're down with that. I haven't been to Lancaster in many years - used to go thru when my gma was alive near Athens but I have been over Gallipolis way and over to Pt. Pleasant WVA recently - which is a neat ... and very haunted place. The Hocking Hills are unique and the entire area woodsy and unlike Columbus, Zanesville, etc. I grew up in Columbus - and it might sound strange but I was living back there near Cincy for a year and a half ... and as close as I got to Columbus was Mt. Sterling - just no desire to see it again.
Have a pleasant one!
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