04-22-2014, 08:50 AM
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I'm a new forum member, but not new to Cincinnati. About 4 years ago my husband and I relocated for his job and we're now being relocated back. Before the relocation, we lived downtown and walked to work. Now we have two young children and I have a new job. My DH will still be commuting downtown, but I have a taken a job in southern IN (on the river). Crazy, I know -- but it's a once in a lifetime kind of opportunity and the commute won't be every day.
Prior to my job transition, we were planning on living north of the river. However, due to my commute, moving the house search to NKY seems to be the best option. Since we now have kids, school districts are a big concern to us. We know that Ft. Mitchell is excellent, but it has limited stock (particularly in our price range). Ft. Thomas would likely extend my commute too far. Ideally, we would like to spend no more than $300,000 and we've been looking in the Union/Florence area.
Can anyone provide perspective on other good schools in NKY (particularly elementary schools)? We've found the ratings sites, etc. but I would really appreciate some insights from people familiar with the area.
Also, an alternative would be for us to live on the westside of Cincinnati, which neither of us is familiar with. Are there any good school systems out toward the IN line? And if anyone has an idea of what the commute through Lawrenceburg on 50 is like, that would also be helpful. My guess is that it is awful, but it's been a while since I was out that way.
04-22-2014, 11:28 AM
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Don't discount the westside of Cincinnati. The commute would be about the same as if you were living in NKY.
How about something like this?
http://hoeting.com/displaylist.asw?l...1692&mls=cincy
04-22-2014, 12:02 PM
Location: Cambridge, MA
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This house's school district (Three Rivers) could probably be classified as "strong second-tier." Just this year a new high school (Taylor) and middle school have made their debut. The Ohio River (and US 50) mark the southern boundary of that district. Miami Township is part of Cincinnati's westward suburban sprawl, where some wooded areas and farms still remain among the sprouting subdivisions. What this means is, "old timers" to the area are scarce if they exist at all. Everyone living there started out someplace else - no small number of them in "changing" city neighborhoods. To my way of thinking that makes for a nice, level social playing field. You won't get the snobbishness of people who have "been there forever." But homogeneity has its minuses too.
The Oak Hills schools are somewhat better regarded, though that district is closer to the city and thus farther from Lawrenceburg. Comparable to Three Rivers would be Harrison, where similar sprawl around the village of that name is going on. Proximity to 275 means a quick hop down to Lawrenceburg.
OP, you might want to also make inquiry in an Indiana forum - people there would be more informed in terms of school systems, "rising" and "declining" communities, etc. To me and most Cincinnatians all of Southeast IN is a blur of farms + woods + hick towns + riverside casinos.
04-22-2014, 12:26 PM
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Thanks for the information so far! To be clear, we're definitely not going to live in Indiana -- 50 through Lawrenceburg would just be the route down to my job if we lived on the westside vs. taking 71S and then branching back up to southern IN if we lived in NKY.
We're primarily interested in NKY because I think having some commute on an interstate would be better than backroad highways the entire 60+ miles. But the Three Rivers schools district is one I had questions about, so thank you for that information!
04-22-2014, 06:01 PM
Location: Mason, OH
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I don't know what you have against Indiana, but that is your business. An Ohio town like Harrison would certainly be in close proximity to US-50 down through Lawrenceburg.
Another choice would be Hebron KY where you jump across the bridge and onto US-50. I would probably prefer that as a good route into Indiana. Hebron is a nice town, I think you could do a lot worse.
04-22-2014, 06:15 PM
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All the others who have commented so far have made really good suggestions. In fact, probably what they suggested are among your best options.
I will add Delhi to the mix, just because it is right off US 50 and has some decent housing stock for $300k, especially in the western stretches on the hills above Sayler Park. Here's some options:
6799 Rapid Run Rd, Cincinnati, OH 45233 is For Sale - Zillow
6799 Rapid Run Rd, Cincinnati, OH 45233 is For Sale - Zillow
6509 Mapleton Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45233 is For Sale - Zillow
6474 Mapleton Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45233 is For Sale - Zillow
Besides there, Blue Ash / Montgomery or Wyoming might not be terrible options either just because you could take advantage of the Cross County highway to get to 275 and Indiana. Good luck!
04-22-2014, 06:44 PM
Location: Mason, OH
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Besides there, Blue Ash / Montgomery or Wyoming might not be terrible options either just because you could take advantage of the Cross County highway to get to 275 and Indiana. Good luck!
Actually, I think Blue Ash/Mongomery and Wyoming are terrible options. If the Dear Husband is still going to be working downtown, his commute should be the most sacrosanct. She even stated her commute may not be a 5-day a week requirement. An unusual job say the least, but she should know.
She also said when they moved away 4 years ago they were childless. Now they are coming back with two kids, so I interpret this as meaning
young kids .
So go where there are tons of other young kids. Hebron is such a place. You are going to need
day care for your
young kids for whatever days you work. Hebron is such a place.
My advice is settle down in a place where you feel comfortable and feel you can live for several years. I just feel Hebron is such as place for you.
04-22-2014, 09:02 PM
Location: Cambridge, MA
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The ONLY thing giving Hebron (pronounced "Hee-brun" with emphasis on the first syllable) an advantage over the Ohio sprawl suburbs is its closeness to the airport. And that closeness could prove to be a huge liability depending on what flight path(s) a prospective home might be near. Family friends who didn't do their homework bought a place on the Ohio side of the river, roughly due north of there, and rue their decision every time a plane screams overhead. Whenever I fly in from the East Coast I can look out the left window and say to myself, "There's LaSalle...and there's Mt St Joe...the anchors of the west side" as the aircraft descends.
Do yourself a big favor and check flight paths as you house hunt.
04-23-2014, 06:52 PM
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Good point about flight paths. It's never fun to live under airplanes flying overhead. That may be a good reason to disregard the houses in Delhi I posted above (because goyguy seemed to describe the exact spot where those houses are located) but still would be worth checking the flight paths regardless of where you live.
Kjbrill, I guess I don't understand why Sycamore or Wyoming schools would be terrible for this family. There should be plenty of young kids in both. And overall the commute to downtown Cincy shouldbe equivalent to what it would be from Hebron
04-24-2014, 06:20 AM
Location: Mason, OH
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Good point about flight paths. It's never fun to live under airplanes flying overhead. That may be a good reason to disregard the houses in Delhi I posted above (because goyguy seemed to describe the exact spot where those houses are located) but still would be worth checking the flight paths regardless of where you live.
Kjbrill, I guess I don't understand why Sycamore or Wyoming schools would be terrible for this family. There should be plenty of young kids in both. And overall the commute to downtown Cincy shouldbe equivalent to what it would be from Hebron
I am thinking more of the wife's commute to Indiana. While she indicates it is not necessarily a 5 day a week requirement, I think making it unnecessarily long is not smart. Blue Ash and Montgomery are fine locations relative to downtown, but not to Indiana. I suggested Hebron as a compromise. It is still quick to downtown, much better than Florence or Union, and after jumping on I-275 and dropping over the hill the wife is across the river and in Indiana. Depending on exact location, US-50 out of Lawrenceburg may be a plausible route, she said the job was on the river.
The wife also commented Ft Thomas would likely make her commute too far. If Ft Thomas is too far, Cincy eastern suburbs should be worse.
Flight paths are a concern, but less than before. With the fewer number of flights and the elimination of that flying sewer pipe, the CRJ which required full engine power to maintain stability in landing, I suspect the noise ratio is less than a few years ago.
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People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)