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Old 02-04-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Default Is Cincinnati really dangerous? No.

I just wanted to start a thread about something thats been bothering me for a while. I just moved to Cincinnati not long ago, but I've visited many times and I've spent alot of time driving and walking around, so I feel I know a little about the city. My problem is that almost everyone on the posts say that Cincinnati is full of crime, only a couple of neighborhoods are safe, buy a bullet proof vest, and most of all live in the suburbs. But I challange that these people are less concerned about safety and more concerned about race. Bond Hill, Roselawn, Westwood, and others are constantly attacked as very dangerous, but there are many nice areas within these neighborhoods with nice kept homes and yards, inhabited by upper middle class black people. I personally know that it is relatively safe to walk around downtown, especially during the day, Ive done it with my family. There is crime everywhere, you can't escape it, neither can you escape the growing number of non-white minority, who will shortly become the majority. So I ask, why can't people stop moving to the suburbs, splitting thier single family homes into rentals, and abonading the wonderful city of Cincinnati before it becomes anothter detroit?
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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I think you answered your own question:

" But I challange that these people are less concerned about safety and more concerned about race "
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:25 PM
 
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I just wanted to start a thread about something thats been bothering me for a while. I just moved to Cincinnati not long ago, but I've visited many times and I've spent alot of time driving and walking around, so I feel I know a little about the city. My problem is that almost everyone on the posts say that Cincinnati is full of crime, only a couple of neighborhoods are safe, buy a bullet proof vest, and most of all live in the suburbs. But I challange that these people are less concerned about safety and more concerned about race. Bond Hill, Roselawn, Westwood, and others are constantly attacked as very dangerous, but there are many nice areas within these neighborhoods with nice kept homes and yards, inhabited by upper middle class black people. I personally know that it is relatively safe to walk around downtown, especially during the day, Ive done it with my family. There is crime everywhere, you can't escape it, neither can you escape the growing number of non-white minority, who will shortly become the majority. So I ask, why can't people stop moving to the suburbs, splitting thier single family homes into rentals, and abonading the wonderful city of Cincinnati before it becomes anothter detroit?

Great post.


The funny thing is ... try to get an educated/factual answer and you leave the TGI Friday-going-cookie-cutter people clueless.


The city of Cincinnati is coming back hard, get on board or get out of the way.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Far from where I'd like to be
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My problem is that almost everyone on the posts say that Cincinnati is full of crime, only a couple of neighborhoods are safe, buy a bullet proof vest, and most of all live in the suburbs
More likely it's the same couple of people repeating themselves.

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But I challange that these people are less concerned about safety and more concerned about race.
Or money. Or perception, false or otherwise.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Toledo
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I'm convinced that most people in this area are scared of their own shadows. If they can't hack it in Cincinnati, then they probably won't make it in any large city. The problem is that Cincinnati would have to be Mayberry for them to stay.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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cincinnati is unsafe. top ten murder rate. 7th most dangerous city over 300,000...the most accurate stats to date. i don't know about some of you, but i grew up in bond hill, northside, avondale, mt. airy. seen and experienced many things as a result. it is not safe in cincinnati as a whole.

Safest and Most Dangerous U.S. Cities, 2007 — Infoplease.com

for large cities, thats....
1.detroit
2.st. louis
3.oakland
4.memphis
5.cleveland
6.baltimore
7.cincinnati
8.kansas city
9.philadelphia
10.atlanta

United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and before you guys hop on the population difference, the only reason the feds started reporting cincinnati at 363,000 is because of a challenge that happened after the stats came out. nobody knew for sure 60,000 people were floating around cincinnati the feds didn't know about so the stat rankings remain the same in principal. any of the cities could have challenged as well and possibly gained residents, hence lowering their per capita so its a static point.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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I think many people give Cincinnati a bad rap, but many haven't been there in years. It is ridiculous. People need to go visit St. Louis, Detroit, Gary or Camden. I mean if this is what they are talking about, they must surely be in these cities.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:08 PM
 
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^^Hey Hillside why don't you do all of us a favor and click on the link you provided for the most dangerous city. I see you like to fudge your "facts"...............
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:17 PM
 
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cincinnati is unsafe. top ten murder rate. 7th most dangerous city over 300,000...the most accurate stats to date. i don't know about some of you, but i grew up in bond hill, northside, avondale, mt. airy. seen and experienced many things as a result. it is not safe in cincinnati as a whole.

Safest and Most Dangerous U.S. Cities, 2007 — Infoplease.com

for large cities, thats....
1.detroit
2.st. louis
3.oakland
4.memphis
5.cleveland
6.baltimore
7.cincinnati
8.kansas city
9.philadelphia
10.atlanta

United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and before you guys hop on the population difference, the only reason the feds started reporting cincinnati at 363,000 is because of a challenge that happened after the stats came out. nobody knew for sure 60,000 people were floating around cincinnati the feds didn't know about so the stat rankings remain the same in principal. any of the cities could have challenged as well and possibly gained residents, hence lowering their per capita so its a static point.
these statistics are more or less meaningless because they don't take into account the relative composition of the cities. Columbus and Indianapolis both have hundred of thousand of suburb residents included in their city total. also the 'city' of cincinnati would include most of northern kentucky if not for the river being a state line.

it isn't comparing apples to oranges, it is comparing grapefruit to wheat
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:53 PM
 
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Hillside, next time you come back to Cincy (if you ever do), let me know ahead of time and I will have my 95-pound wife escort you around ... kind of like a body guard.
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