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Old 01-06-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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Agreed. All this post does is point out how pointlessly provincial this city can be. And with that it does a great job. A h3ll of a lot of morons live in this city, and most all of them are provincial @ssholes.
Read "most all" as many. Sorry, I thought I said many. No need to go crazy on me, you all know who I am and what I meant to say. If you think I'm a troll then... My sincere apologies for your lacking intellect. I've provided good positive and accurate commentary on this city more times than your average westsider has visited their local chili parlor.

My goal wasn't to get everyone's back up haha, but if we can't acknowledge the vocal minority (with the feel of being the majority) of Bill Cunningham, John Cranley, Charlie Luken, and every person who asks what high school you went to as a 40 yr old exists then we have problems. These people don't want OTR, or any kind of progression. They want 1950 back. And they be dammed if they don't get it.


And thank god they won't. Thank goodness for the people that fight for a better tomorrow. And against their slime. Better days are coming, but in Cincinnati it's always been a zigzag route around these people to get there. Thus my frustration with this post which promotes the mentality. Sorry about the extreme language.


@CapCatfish... My detailed answer. Also I didn't realize I said "most all", not "many", earlier.
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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While I'm not going to argue that I've found some things about the region to be provincial ...

I guess I don't see at all how the Original Post qualifies?

Some people are very interested in defining "class" monetarily. Go on the economics forum, and every few months someone posts basically the exact same post - "how much money is 'middle class'?, how much money is 'Rich'?".

The original poster's follow up question - which seemed to be more about cost of living for a "working class" person ... seemed to be crux of the matter.

Who knows, maybe they're looking at moving to Cinci, or know someone who is - and they want to know "economically" where they'd stand.

That's valuable knowledge to have.

(For instance, while semi-comfortable in this area, I know that were I to move to NYC or SF, I'd be become working poor - because cost of living would kill us).

Not really offended by your statements SWOH - just kinda confused because to me it seemed a bit off topic. But, I'm such a bit player in this forum, I'm sure I miss a lot.
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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I don't have exact dollar amounts in mind for each social class category listed by the OP, and I have absolutely no desire to guess.


With that said, I think a lot of people around here judge others by real or perceived social class as much, and maybe even more so than they do with race or ethnicity. I'm a member of a town/neighborhood group page on Facebook where a good deal of the people are at least upper middle class, and there are times when they're all but outright saying we don't want "those" people in our backyards.
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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While I'm not going to argue that I've found some things about the region to be provincial ...

I guess I don't see at all how the Original Post qualifies?

Some people are very interested in defining "class" monetarily. Go on the economics forum, and every few months someone posts basically the exact same post - "how much money is 'middle class'?, how much money is 'Rich'?".

The original poster's follow up question - which seemed to be more about cost of living for a "working class" person ... seemed to be crux of the matter.

Who knows, maybe they're looking at moving to Cinci, or know someone who is - and they want to know "economically" where they'd stand.

That's valuable knowledge to have.

(For instance, while semi-comfortable in this area, I know that were I to move to NYC or SF, I'd be become working poor - because cost of living would kill us).

Not really offended by your statements SWOH - just kinda confused because to me it seemed a bit off topic. But, I'm such a bit player in this forum, I'm sure I miss a lot.
This is a fairly accurate post. I just wanted some info, but when the topic is money, it often triggers peoples feelings on the question more than their desire to share observational data.
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Old 01-07-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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While I'm not going to argue that I've found some things about the region to be provincial ...

I guess I don't see at all how the Original Post qualifies?

Some people are very interested in defining "class" monetarily. Go on the economics forum, and every few months someone posts basically the exact same post - "how much money is 'middle class'?, how much money is 'Rich'?".

The original poster's follow up question - which seemed to be more about cost of living for a "working class" person ... seemed to be crux of the matter.

Who knows, maybe they're looking at moving to Cinci, or know someone who is - and they want to know "economically" where they'd stand.

That's valuable knowledge to have.


(For instance, while semi-comfortable in this area, I know that were I to move to NYC or SF, I'd be become working poor - because cost of living would kill us).

Not really offended by your statements SWOH - just kinda confused because to me it seemed a bit off topic. But, I'm such a bit player in this forum, I'm sure I miss a lot.
I can understand that, I think you're right and I read into it too much. I don't venture outside the Cincy/Dayton forums much, if ever, so I didn't know that was a regular discussion over there. Makes sense though, I'll have to check it out sometime.

As for the bolded part, I'd agree, and direct them to the main site per each community or Wikipedia. Or if there is a major retail center in the area (ex. Kenwood), look at the leasing info of a property in the area and it will give great info on median household incomes by mile range. Or Zillow is a good way to check too. That's my normal go-to.

And yeah, I think it was the title that got my back up. There's so much more to life than social classes, it's very important to look past them. For everyone's sake.
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