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Old 04-16-2016, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/dennisonhotel/. Conservation office staff recommends against demolishing historic Dennison Hotel - Story. Mayor Cranley is letting developers demolish 19th century buildings in historic Over The Rhine replacing irreplaceable century and a half year old structures with your everyday run of the mill nondescript condominiums and glace office towers you can find in any other American city. Mayor Cranley said just because a building is old - if it is has nothing architecturally special or iconic about it - then it does not need to be preserved. I guess it hasn't occurred to him the reason Over the Rhine is so unique is because the building stock is rare. Once they are gone they are gone forever. Not surprising for a Mayor that is a suburbanite in heart born and raised in the suburb of Green Township to see no appeal in any of these old urban structures as worth preserving.

A century plus old structure at 721 Main street that housed Pizza establishment at the ground floor was recently razed to the ground by developer Rick Greiwe to make room for some proposed condominiums. Now across the street on Main street the Joseph Auto group wants to demolish the former Denison Hotel. 3CDC bought the building in 2013 for $1.3 million. One month later they sold it to the Joseph Auto group for $744,000 for an almost $600,000 lost . The Joseph Auto group after getting a sweetheart real estate deal in a prime area at a steep discount from 3CDC is now complaining to city leaders they can't make money off of their property in Over The Rhine unless the city allow them raze the building to ground.

The Joseph Auto Group has a history of making grandiose promises to city leaders in order to con them into agreeing to their requests. Their business model seems to be bait and switch in order to acquire revenue generating parking lots. 29 years ago they razed a entire block in Over The Rhine with the grandiose promise that a corporate headquarters would be located there. 29 years later it still serves as a paid parking lot. Now they want to repeat the success of that ill gotten gain by promising a glass office building that will attract a Fortune 500 headquarters to that location. I wouldn't be surprised if our city leaders would believe those grandiose schemes again from that auto dealer group again hook line and sinker.

Mayor Cranley said he believes the free market should decide the fate of this structure. He thinks by bulldozing Over The Rhine with developers promising the moon that somehow it will bring people and create vibrancy in Over The Rhine. Other cities would kill to have something like Over The Rhine and use it as an asset. Mayor Cranley is perfectly willing to destroy it if the highest bidder comes along. He seems to not to understand or care that preserving Over The Rhine in its totality is of the vital long term interest to Cincinnati because the uniqueness of it gives the city a draw when fully revitalized most American cities cannot match. This Mayor is the wrong fit for this city as trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. He is more fit to be a mayor of some suburb where strip malls, glass office parks and expanded highways are all the rage. November 2017 when the next Mayoral election cannot come soon enough.

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Old 04-23-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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The temptation of new development, of feeling like someone is saying, 'yes, i want YOU, Cincinnati,' is just too much to resist.
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Old 04-23-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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What makes the proposal ridiculous is the fact that
a) there's a ton of vacant space they could renovate or build new all over downtown, and
b) the odds of landing a Fortune 500 HQ is next to nothing, and even if they did it's likely to be a weaker F500 (think NCR, Chiquita, etc... companies that bounce from HQ to HQ every 5 years or so, depending on the tax deal).

If it's for protecting the presence of a current F500 in Cincy then I'd consider it. Otherwise, this needs to be shot down.
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Old 04-25-2016, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (P Ridge)
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Unless they have proof that they actually have a major company coming in then they have an argument otherwise they have no excuse. But this is really just about wanting more parking spaces. Never underestimate the panic attack people can have when they worry about parking (even though there is way way way too much parking downtown).

...and of course Cranley wants to knock it down. He is the worst.
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/dennisonhotel/. Conservation office staff recommends against demolishing historic Dennison Hotel - Story. Mayor Cranley is letting developers demolish 19th century buildings in historic Over The Rhine replacing irreplaceable century and a half year old structures with your everyday run of the mill nondescript condominiums and glace office towers you can find in any other American city. Mayor Cranley said just because a building is old - if it is has nothing architecturally special or iconic about it - then it does not need to be preserved. I guess it hasn't occurred to him the reason Over the Rhine is so unique is because the building stock is rare. Once they are gone they are gone forever. Not surprising for a Mayor that is a suburbanite in heart born and raised in the suburb of Green Township to see no appeal in any of these old urban structures as worth preserving.

A century plus old structure at 721 Main street that housed Pizza establishment at the ground floor was recently razed to the ground by developer Rick Greiwe to make room for some proposed condominiums. Now across the street on Main street the Joseph Auto group wants to demolish the former Denison Hotel. 3CDC bought the building in 2013 for $1.3 million. One month later they sold it to the Joseph Auto group for $744,000 for an almost $600,000 lost . The Joseph Auto group after getting a sweetheart real estate deal in a prime area at a steep discount from 3CDC is now complaining to city leaders they can't make money off of their property in Over The Rhine unless the city allow them raze the building to ground.

The Joseph Auto Group has a history of making grandiose promises to city leaders in order to con them into agreeing to their requests. Their business model seems to be bait and switch in order to acquire revenue generating parking lots. 29 years ago they razed a entire block in Over The Rhine with the grandiose promise that a corporate headquarters would be located there. 29 years later it still serves as a paid parking lot. Now they want to repeat the success of that ill gotten gain by promising a glass office building that will attract a Fortune 500 headquarters to that location. I wouldn't be surprised if our city leaders would believe those grandiose schemes again from that auto dealer group again hook line and sinker.

Mayor Cranley said he believes the free market should decide the fate of this structure. He thinks by bulldozing Over The Rhine with developers promising the moon that somehow it will bring people and create vibrancy in Over The Rhine. Other cities would kill to have something like Over The Rhine and use it as an asset. Mayor Cranley is perfectly willing to destroy it if the highest bidder comes along. He seems to not to understand or care that preserving Over The Rhine in its totality is of the vital long term interest to Cincinnati because the uniqueness of it gives the city a draw when fully revitalized most American cities cannot match. This Mayor is the wrong fit for this city as trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. He is more fit to be a mayor of some suburb where strip malls, glass office parks and expanded highways are all the rage. November 2017 when the next Mayoral election cannot come soon enough.

Having just returned from Charleston, SC where historic buildings must be repurposed. Cranley's ideas are asinine (as usual)!
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Cincinnati, you get what you deserve when you elect idiots like Cranley.

How did this man get elected?
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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I'm as against this as anyone, but this building is not located in OTR.
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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People really should go downtown more often in a lot of places.
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Old 05-06-2016, 05:59 AM
 
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Cincinnati, you get what you deserve when you elect idiots like Cranley.

How did this man get elected?
Democrats form a majority of the city, and they voted him in.
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Old 05-06-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/dennisonhotel/. Conservation office staff recommends against demolishing historic Dennison Hotel - Story. Mayor Cranley is letting developers demolish 19th century buildings in historic Over The Rhine replacing irreplaceable century and a half year old structures with your everyday run of the mill nondescript condominiums and glace office towers you can find in any other American city. Mayor Cranley said just because a building is old - if it is has nothing architecturally special or iconic about it - then it does not need to be preserved. I guess it hasn't occurred to him the reason Over the Rhine is so unique is because the building stock is rare. Once they are gone they are gone forever. Not surprising for a Mayor that is a suburbanite in heart born and raised in the suburb of Green Township to see no appeal in any of these old urban structures as worth preserving.

A century plus old structure at 721 Main street that housed Pizza establishment at the ground floor was recently razed to the ground by developer Rick Greiwe to make room for some proposed condominiums. Now across the street on Main street the Joseph Auto group wants to demolish the former Denison Hotel. 3CDC bought the building in 2013 for $1.3 million. One month later they sold it to the Joseph Auto group for $744,000 for an almost $600,000 lost . The Joseph Auto group after getting a sweetheart real estate deal in a prime area at a steep discount from 3CDC is now complaining to city leaders they can't make money off of their property in Over The Rhine unless the city allow them raze the building to ground.

The Joseph Auto Group has a history of making grandiose promises to city leaders in order to con them into agreeing to their requests. Their business model seems to be bait and switch in order to acquire revenue generating parking lots. 29 years ago they razed a entire block in Over The Rhine with the grandiose promise that a corporate headquarters would be located there. 29 years later it still serves as a paid parking lot. Now they want to repeat the success of that ill gotten gain by promising a glass office building that will attract a Fortune 500 headquarters to that location. I wouldn't be surprised if our city leaders would believe those grandiose schemes again from that auto dealer group again hook line and sinker.

Mayor Cranley said he believes the free market should decide the fate of this structure. He thinks by bulldozing Over The Rhine with developers promising the moon that somehow it will bring people and create vibrancy in Over The Rhine. Other cities would kill to have something like Over The Rhine and use it as an asset. Mayor Cranley is perfectly willing to destroy it if the highest bidder comes along. He seems to not to understand or care that preserving Over The Rhine in its totality is of the vital long term interest to Cincinnati because the uniqueness of it gives the city a draw when fully revitalized most American cities cannot match. This Mayor is the wrong fit for this city as trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. He is more fit to be a mayor of some suburb where strip malls, glass office parks and expanded highways are all the rage. November 2017 when the next Mayoral election cannot come soon enough.

The Dennison Hotel was also the home of Cincinnati novelist and poet Robert Lowry (1919-1994), author of THE BIG CAGE and THE VIOLENT WEDDING, a writer described by Hemingway as "one of the best writers America has today." He lived there in the late 1980s and early 1990s following the death of his mother.
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