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04-05-2008, 04:55 PM
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"Sometimes it makes me wonder whether some people have an ulterior motive - such as trying to sell real estate or working for the chamber of commerce or similar. But, I don't have any way of knowing if that's true, so I don't point any fingers. "
Mrs. Hartwellgirl is a stay at home mom who works for NO ONE but my family. We make many sacrifices so I can stay home --I give back by volunteering in my neighborhood as to keep my neighborhood a good safe place to call home. I educate myself on the facts, not hear say. I have no other intentions here than to set the facts straight from the point of view of someone who lives in Hartwell. Sure people get on here to find out about a neighborhood and I think their decision making should be based on facts or information from residents instead of sometimes exaggerated opinions or hear say.
Bottom line, my neighborhood speaks for itself and it is a waste of my time to defend it to those who think they know my home better than I do.
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04-08-2008, 10:36 AM
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Getting Back on topic
I am sure I can think of six things (probably more) that I dislike about Cincinnati but I think most of them derive from my #1 pet peeve - imcompetent leadership.
Whether it's horrendous zoning decisions, lack of leadership when it comes to the export of good management jobs, or a complete lack of vision about the future of the area.
And this covers officials of all political parties(for those unfamiliar with our system, we actually have three political parties in Cincinnati) and levels of government. From Congressman Chabot, who refuses to use his influence to bring jobs into the area, to Auditor Dusty Rhodes, who could not hide his obvious glee at the prospect of Delta Airlines contemplating closing down their hub at CVG.
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04-08-2008, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by The Don
I am sure I can think of six things (probably more) that I dislike about Cincinnati but I think most of them derive from my #1 pet peeve - imcompetent leadership.
Whether it's horrendous zoning decisions, lack of leadership when it comes to the export of good management jobs, or a complete lack of vision about the future of the area.
And this covers officials of all political parties(for those unfamiliar with our system, we actually have three political parties in Cincinnati) and levels of government. From Congressman Chabot, who refuses to use his influence to bring jobs into the area, to Auditor Dusty Rhodes, who could not hide his obvious glee at the prospect of Delta Airlines contemplating closing down their hub at CVG.
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we see iris to iris on this. how about all the backscratching and kickbacking? all the waffling of party affiliation? is ghiz a charterite or a democrat? really i think she's a republican  but who's counting? how about her convicted child molesting husband working at a youth shelter in the west end? i mean, cincinnati had phil heimlich in power for years, and simon leis is still in office. it has to be one of the most over-saturated, convoluted, corrupt, disorganized, incompetent and effectively inefficient government structures in america. right up there with philly. people can disagree with me on crime, whatever, but this is a concentrated issue. i'll go to war on this.
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04-08-2008, 03:20 PM
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Those are not Visions
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Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise
Ohhh ... I can think of about a $2.144 billion dollars in visions ... to read about them go to UrbanOhio.com - Index
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That is NOT what I consider a vision -- those are projects or maybe more like dreams.
By vision, I mean, where do you see Cincinnati going in the next 25 years... what unique and special role will the area play? What GOALS are being set for the region?
Once those questions are asked and answered, then the appropriate PROJECTS can be formulated.
If these questions are never asked, we will get more of the same -- a seeming random series of unrelated developments, some of which are in direct conflict with each other! 
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04-09-2008, 01:23 AM
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Visionaries
I REALLY DIDN'T MEAN FOR MY ORIGINAL POST TO SPARK ALL THIS DEBATE.. It's good to discuss the issues, but my original intent wasn't to get people to start bashing the city nor to unrealistically defend her.
I agree with The Don's last post about lacking vision. One sore point for me: the whole streetcar thing. I've likened it in the past to painting your living room walls instead of paying attention the leaky roof/basement -- and I stand by that statement.
As an "outsider" fairly new to the Queen City, I can't understand why more money isn't directed towards restoring her beauty. What happened to the generations that built the grand structures and beautiful homes? There are a few exceptions I've encountered since moving here, but for the most part those people and that work ethic is long gone. And that's sad.
Cincinnati is full of architectural treasures -- and yet we chase after development of things such as the Banks and (re)building a small streetcar system, rather than restore her glorious structures -- or at least keep them from disintegrating before our eyes. This is a matter of both vision and priorities.
I still think Cincinnati is moving in the right direction. People are trying hard and seem genuinely concerned. I also believe that citizens who have little knowledge of other areas of the country don't appreciate how good they've got it -- or the hidden potential that lies in the fate of the city's rich architectural heritage.
Restore her splendor and the people will come. They will come as tourists, as businesses, and as residents. Look around you. Unlock the potential. Do your part -- maintain your home and the area around it. Cincinnati's bright future rests in glorifying the hard-working, thoughtful craftsmanship of her previous generations.
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04-09-2008, 07:51 AM
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Please?
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cinti expatriate in Phila.
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What happened to the generations that built the grand structures and beautiful homes?
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They built much grander winter homes in Naples, Florida.
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04-09-2008, 06:50 PM
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Well Put
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Originally Posted by jersey_too_expensive
I REALLY DIDN'T MEAN FOR MY ORIGINAL POST TO SPARK ALL THIS DEBATE.. It's good to discuss the issues, but my original intent wasn't to get people to start bashing the city nor to unrealistically defend her.
I agree with The Don's last post about lacking vision. One sore point for me: the whole streetcar thing. I've likened it in the past to painting your living room walls instead of paying attention the leaky roof/basement -- and I stand by that statement.
As an "outsider" fairly new to the Queen City, I can't understand why more money isn't directed towards restoring her beauty. What happened to the generations that built the grand structures and beautiful homes? There are a few exceptions I've encountered since moving here, but for the most part those people and that work ethic is long gone. And that's sad.
Cincinnati is full of architectural treasures -- and yet we chase after development of things such as the Banks and (re)building a small streetcar system, rather than restore her glorious structures -- or at least keep them from disintegrating before our eyes. This is a matter of both vision and priorities.
I still think Cincinnati is moving in the right direction. People are trying hard and seem genuinely concerned. I also believe that citizens who have little knowledge of other areas of the country don't appreciate how good they've got it -- or the hidden potential that lies in the fate of the city's rich architectural heritage.
Restore her splendor and the people will come. They will come as tourists, as businesses, and as residents. Look around you. Unlock the potential. Do your part -- maintain your home and the area around it. Cincinnati's bright future rests in glorifying the hard-working, thoughtful craftsmanship of her previous generations.
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We need a lot more people with that philosophy. Here's hoping it will spread.
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04-14-2008, 01:01 PM
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I grew up in Cincinnati and now live in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, while not the perfect city, has a History and Landmarks Foundation that preserves neighborhoods and historic buildings, and even a Young Preservationists group for younger professionals to get involved in preserving the city. Talking to my parents I was surprised to find that Cincy doesn't really have organizations like that.
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04-14-2008, 03:21 PM
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Now was that nice!
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Location: Rocky River, Ohio (Cleveland)
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Originally Posted by fleetiebelle
I grew up in Cincinnati and now live in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, while not the perfect city, has a History and Landmarks Foundation that preserves neighborhoods and historic buildings, and even a Young Preservationists group for younger professionals to get involved in preserving the city. Talking to my parents I was surprised to find that Cincy doesn't really have organizations like that.
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Actually check into Over-The-Rhine, the same thing is happening in Cincinnati as in Pittsburgh.
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04-14-2008, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jersey_too_expensive
I agree with The Don's last post about lacking vision. One sore point for me: the whole streetcar thing. I've likened it in the past to painting your living room walls instead of paying attention the leaky roof/basement -- and I stand by that statement.
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check out these websites for more info on the streetcar:
Cincinnati Streetcar - Connect the Dots
City of Cincinnati -Cincinnati Streetcar Study
Welcome to Cincinnati Streetcar Development Group
Based on the experiences of every other city in america that has installed a streetcar and the feasibility study and economic impact study, it looks like it will be a success. [Before anyone makes this mistake, Buffalo and Detroit do not have streetcars, nor does Cleveland]
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