Top 6 Things I Hate About Cincinnati (Green: 2009, calculated, versus)

[kyranay]

I hate N-71 at the Ridge Rd. exit. Why would they take a four lane highway and cut it down to 2 with a 3rd lane joining on the left?? Idiots. The engineers need to go back to school and study traffic flow. And....why do so many people completely disregard red lights?!? I don't know how many times I have had to avoid a side swipe b/c some moron was blowing through a red light.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by kyranay

I hate N-71 at the Ridge Rd. exit. Why would they take a four lane highway and cut it down to 2 with a 3rd lane joining on the left?? Idiots. The engineers need to go back to school and study traffic flow.

Yes the expressways here are awful. I could possibly excuse some of the earlier designed areas because maybe not as much was known about limited access highways back in the 50's but what possible excuse can be made for the newly designed and built Ft. Washington Way -- that was just rediculus. And we have to live with it.

Makes you look forward to nationalized healthcare.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

Keep your fat, white, lame, hillbilly, moronic, uninspiring, uncreative, *****-***, ass out of here.

Woah Woah Cincy-rise, calm down.

Dont stoop to their level.

[lifesentence]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

Keep your fat, white, lame, hillbilly, moronic, uninspiring, uncreative, *****-***, ass out of here.

Hmmm...at first glance this appears to be an instruction to all who are considering moving to Cincinnati. It seems a little harsh to discourage population growth in a shrinking city, but I'm new to this forum so I can't really judge.

But, though I do not match this profound and colorful description, I realize it is intended for me and probably posted by an offended native. If "here" refers to this forum, I am here because this forum is the #1 hit if you Google the search term "I hate Cincinnati".

In deference to the "senior member", I shall disclaim my previous post. Not a word of it is true, not a word. It was a frivolous fabrication on my part, and I apologize for offending anyone who reads it. I can't imagine how I came up with such crazy ideas; I really will try to be more thoughtful and considerate if I post again.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by lifesentence

It seems a little harsh to discourage population growth in a shrinking city, but I'm new to this forum so I can't really judge.

Don't comment about what you do not know. The city is gaining in population ... not shrinking.

wow.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Woah Woah Cincy-rise, calm down.

Dont stoop to their level.

lol ... I wish I could convey emotions better through text on a computer screen, but I was as calm as a Buddhist monk when I wrote that.

[Dodgester]

I don't know about other state drivers, but MI drivers found OH to be very stringent on their speed limits. From my own experience, MI police don't seem to be all that much concerned about driving over the speed limit while in places like Toledo, OH, the police are sitting there just waiting for MI drivers to be driving through there at a higher rate of speed. Police in Kenton and Boone counties of KY is also like that with regards to Ohio drivers going into KY. I haven't found TN or FL to be like that, but GA is like that as well. You wonder why you have slow MI drivers in OH. It's cause of every driver in MI that I have talked with as well as have experienced myself, one must watch themself when driving through OH. Arlington Heights near Cincinnati is just as bad as Toledo.

As far as I'm concerned, the government has the interstate speed limits set artificially too low under the claim that speed kills (while this is true, they also use speed as the main reason for accidents which I'm willing to bet in at least 95% of the cases the speed is not the primary cause as the drivers have broken some other rule like the 2 second rule including blind spots, cutting in front of other drivers, driving distracted while expecting the world to operate around them as I had to deal with one van driver doing today on the interstate which I purposely got in front of him slowing down until he pulled over to the slow lane as he was driving 45MPH in a 70MPH zone otherwise in the fast lane while talking on a hand held cell phone, and according to TN, slower traffic is to keep right as that driver broke that rule, and in KY, drivers are not to be in the left lane unless passing, which that driver was being passed, not passing, so obviously broke that rule as well).

How many officers however enforce these rules?

My guess, none of them as they seem to think this is too hard to enforce, so they use speeding as a cop out. You wonder why you have road rage out there on the interstate. It's cause you have drivers like that van driver that are inconsiderate of other drivers and don't follow through with the unwritten rules or in the case of TN and KY rules, those rules became written rules decades ago. But then since the officers don't enforce such written rules, such drivers think to themselves, why should they follow such written rules.

What should be the speed limits on the interstates? In my opinion, probably more like about 85MPH since the officers allow for a 5MPH grace anyhow. Once you get to over 90MPH, when it comes to the curves on the interstate, it can be very easily to lose control when dealing with curves like through the mountains of southern KY and northern TN. Of course, on the account of the 2 second rules, when going through cuts like the ones that's just north of Knoxville, Jelico Mountain in Tn just south of KY, and the cut through the hill in Covington, KY, it should be more like about 65 to 70MPH. Of course, with the cut through the hill in Covington, when it comes to inclement weather, it should be significantly lower with bans of truckers driving through the cut when roads are significantly complicated by the weather as a result of the combination of the major hill and the curviness of the interstate to the point semis seem to jack knife or some other major incident whenever the roads are impacted by inclement weather. Not only that, but with such semis getting into such wrecks, it causes the interstate for that same direction to shut down. It's almost guaranteed to happened whenever there is snow/ice in the area, so I don't even take the interstate home from work as I'm not about to get stuck on the interstate for several hours over a small stretch of the interstate.

Originally Posted by Traveler87

LOL I find Michigan drivers to be terribly slow. There are many people from Detroit moving down here to Cleveland, so I have to put up with many Michigan drivers moving in while I am on my way to downtown, or even better yet when I go to Kent and I am on the Turnpike. They get in the fast lane, but do NOT go fast, so I am stuck behind to slow drivers and can't get past either. The whole point to the fast lane is to past the slower traffic.

Michigan roads are terrible. Michigan has a terrible infrastructure. When I leave Ohio (Toledo) and enter Detroit, the roads and freeways are all confusing and all are very old. Get out and fix it Michigan!

And New Jersey drivers are the worst, along with Mass drivers. Driving down I-95 south to see those horrid yellow license plates (New Jersey) passing you at a terrible speed makes you wonder if they have any laws in Jersey. And to add to that, was in Georgia driving at night, they have little slots in the trees along the freeway, saw a guy from Jersey going about 85, few miles down the road laughed as I saw him sitting on the side with the cop walking up to the car.

[Dodgester]

Originally Posted by The Don

Yes the expressways here are awful. I could possibly excuse some of the earlier designed areas because maybe not as much was known about limited access highways back in the 50's but what possible excuse can be made for the newly designed and built Ft. Washington Way -- that was just rediculus. And we have to live with it.

Makes you look forward to nationalized healthcare.

Well for the Ft Washington Way, the eastern side is relatively fine given the limitation of the tunnel, though could have done better with the ramps from Columbia Pkwy to Ft Washington Way to remove much of the sharper curves, but the western side needed to be done much better. I understand the limitations with regards to the Brent Spence Bridge, but then the western side on the OH side of the I71/I75/US50/US52 junction needed to be dealt with much better. Let's see, Ft Washington Way to River Rd (Yes, this may be technically 6th Street Express, but it's still essentially River Road as the original 6th Street still exists in many places, but rather segmented into several dead ends like what happened to 5th Street, Baymiller Rd, and so on), the curve is too sharp and could have been dealt with. Even the curve to I75N is too sharp. Hopefully, once the Brent Spence Bridge project is under way, they will redo that whole junction area without restoring to traffic lights, but rather not make the curves nearly as sharp, put in much greater capacity and not resort to such rules like change the 2 second driving rule to 3 second driving rule under the name of congestion when that will only reduce road capacity by 33% as at that point, you can only have 20 vehicles per mile per lane under the 3 second rule as opposed to 30 vehicles per mile per lane under the 2 second rule assuming 60MPH is the average speed on the interstate. However, I highly doubt OH DOT will do that as they will name finances as the major limitation. I wonder why? Is it cause the state is taxing at higher rates for income taxes while also taxing sales tax and property taxes to such rates that once all such taxes are added up, it works the average family is paying in about 35% of income into taxes? Of course, I know it could be worse like in CA that charges 20% of high blue book value as annual vehicle taxes as my uncle who lives out there has told me. Not only that, but they also taxing so much other stuff. Are some of these states over taxing to the point they are driving businesses out of their states?

[Cincy-Rise]

^ I agree. FWW was the best damn thing to happen to highway/CBD integration. I don't think The Don is familiar with pre-FWW. Keep that crap out of Downtown. Now, when they cap FWW, that's where it really starts to get even better.

[camelot05]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

Don't comment about what you do not know. The city is gaining in population ... not shrinking.

wow.

This is an estimate only. Since 2000, estimates are Cincinnati will have gained a whopping 2,000 people as of 2008. Again, until the census comes out, that is just an estimate. Before that, Cincinnati shrunk in population for 5 straight decades.