Cincinnati weather... (Cleveland: how much, agriculture, land)

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Welcome back maxmodder! Why the new name?

My thoughts exactly, but Maxmodder was smarter than this guy.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by wrightflyer

P.S. I would highly consider moving west if it were not for water issues in the American southwest and then some. California is facing major water issues that I don't see abating anytime soon. Oh, and prices are high!

What about: massive forest fires that are ravaging California and threatening its physical beauty, as many of the forests will not regenerate due to increasing drought conditions; the earthquake risk; drought conditions that threaten the state's agriculture bounty (historically, one of the great joys of living in CA); and massive traffic congestion?

[motorman]

Originally Posted by on3

This weather is amazing compared to Chicago, Buffalo, or Cleveland. I shovel my drive less than 5 times a year and don't have to deal with all the crap that people from those places deal with for 4 months out of the year. Far less gray skies here. Just an overall feeling of winning when you can live in the midwest but "cheat" by living in the southern part of the mid west to gain all the benefits of the better weather compare to those other areas...

Agreed. The stark difference between Cincinnati's mostly benign winter weather vs. that of the aforementioned Great Lake cities is well known and much appreciated. As for myself, one of my favorite morning routines is viewing the front pages of select Midwest daily newspapers on the Newseum website. Regularly in previous winters, the Cleveland Plain Dealer has pictured what inclement weather looks like in ways we hope to never experience here.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by motorman

Agreed. The stark difference between Cincinnati's mostly benign winter weather vs. that of the aforementioned Great Lake cities is well known and much appreciated. As for myself, one of my favorite morning routines is viewing the front pages of select Midwest daily newspapers on the Newseum website. Regularly in previous winters, the Cleveland Plain Dealer has pictured what inclement weather looks like in ways we hope to never experience here.

Great straw man argument. Please post some links in the future. Also post links about Cincinnati shut-downs in snow storms that would hardly be mentioned in Greater Cleveland due to its more robust ice and snow-handling capabilities. Many Greater Cleveland communities even use sidewalk plows, often on just several inches of snow these days as most persons no longer shovel or otherwise remove snow from sidewalks. Many never clear their driveways, and just plow through any snow with trucks or other vehicles.

Due to climate change, long gone are the days when interstates would be closed for days by a blizzard.

https://www.weather.gov/iln/19780126

When was the last time Cincinnati experienced a crippling blizzard??? Note that 14 inches is considered "great" in Cincinnati!!! All things are relative.

https://www.wcpo.com/news/our-commun...e-in-14-inches


Here are some links showing what some of us love about still having four distinct seasons, and are saddened by the diminishing winters and even the decline of Ohio's maple sugar industry due to climate change.

https://ohiomaple.wordpress.com/2018...n-tanks-again/

https://ohiomaple.wordpress.com/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIiH3TgvCrg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRP7841Sx0A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHN-rHC1HpE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgpOI2WlMRc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzGFzbQBY9A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukE3uJIbOIs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ibznmi9hgc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqgRoHIkgk

Icicles & Frozen Waterfalls Photography Workshop, The Holden Arboretum (FULL)

And snow cover greatly enhances holiday light displays, even though we often have little or no snow on Christmas Day any longer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrFW10VTaYg

Also understand winters in the snowbelt anchored by Geauga County northeast of Cleveland is not the winter weather to be found in the more western and southern reaches of Greater Cleveland.

Most persons in Greater Cleveland live near sledding hills. Kids make snowmen and have snowball fights. And, in addition, we have less muggy summer heat than persons who live in Cincinnati, plus the joy of living on a Great Lake during the summer boating season, a direct trade-off of Lake Erie "lake effect" snowfalls.

To each their own.

[motorman]

^ Nice going! Whether you realize it or not, you inadvertently validated my entire post - especially in that "Lake Erie Ice Mountains" video. (Gawd, what a mess!)

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by motorman

^ Nice going! Whether you realize it or not, you inadvertently validated my entire post - especially in that "Lake Erie Ice Mountains" video. (Gawd, what a mess!)

I knew exactly what I was doing. Why is Lake Erie shore ice, created first by freezing waves, then by compression, a "mess?" Do you think we drive over it??? I believe it's wonderful to experience the power of nature, especially for children. You evidently prefer a homogenized, air-conditioned life experience.

To explore Lake Erie ice, you might have two weeks, seemingly around President's Day, in a "cold" winter these days; "cold" used to be the norm. Perhaps there will be 2 1/2 months of winter sports availability apart from artificial snow and ice. Many Clevelanders, including me, value our winter experiences, and maple sugaring season, and hate to see their ongoing disapperance. As I said, to each their own, but there are persons who wouldn't want anything to do with Cincinnati summers, which likely will become even more sweltering in coming years.

While Clevelanders can experience the winter and play in it, here's the everyday winter experience expressed by a mother whose family relocated for a year FROM FLORIDA to Beachwood, on the western edge of Cleveland's snow belt:

<<Snow removal was on point. They definitely know what they are doing. Even though it was a mild winter, snow/ice was NEVER a problem.>>

http://www.city-data.com/forum/cleve...land-area.html

Is winter even today "NEVER a problem" in Cincinnati, given Greater Cincinnati's lesser acclimation to winter than in Greater Cleveland?

[on3]

Of the 3 c's, Cincinnati has the least accumulation, Cleveland snow belt area the most, and Columbus is in between. Cleveland has gotten better, but there are still times where schools have to close in Cleveland because it's too cold or you are sitting in a parking lot scraping ice off your windows. A nice light snowfall in Cleveland is OK, it's when it accumulates and causes traffic delays is when it sucks. There are things you can do, like 4 wheel drive that make it easier. Expect a morning work commute in Cleveland to double when it hits. This however, is temporary and it's not like it happens for weeks at a time. They are good about keeping the roads salted and paved. Regardless, many would prefer not to have to deal with it at all.

The fact remains that there are times in the winter in Cleveland where it just plain sucks to be there.

There are some days in Cincinnati in the summer where you just don't want to be there and would rather be in Cleveland on the lake enjoying a nice breeze instead of muggy weather. There's no need to try and down play Cleveland winter weather, it's talked about on a national level as not being desirable.

Cleveland ranks top 3 for worst winter weather in the US:

https://www.monster.com/career-advic...e-winter-blues

So if you don't want to deal with winter weather work blues, you may want to consider not living in Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Cleveland to name a few.

All this being said, when it comes to the 3 C's its so much better having 4 seasons than being some place where there isn't 4 seasons.

Originally Posted by motorman

Agreed. The stark difference between Cincinnati's mostly benign winter weather vs. that of the aforementioned Great Lake cities is well known and much appreciated. As for myself, one of my favorite morning routines is viewing the front pages of select Midwest daily newspapers on the Newseum website. Regularly in previous winters, the Cleveland Plain Dealer has pictured what inclement weather looks like in ways we hope to never experience here.

Certainly. There is something to be said when my friends and family are freezing their asses off in Cleveland and Columbus shoveling their driveway before being able to go to work while I'm sitting in West Chester looking at my nice dry driveway with a big grin on my face.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by on3

Of the 3 c's, Cincinnati has the least accumulation, Cleveland snow belt area the most, and Columbus is in between. Cleveland has gotten better, but there are still times where schools have to close in Cleveland because it's too cold or you are sitting in a parking lot scraping ice off your windows. A nice light snowfall in Cleveland is OK, it's when it accumulates and causes traffic delays is when it sucks. There are things you can do, like 4 wheel drive that make it easier. Expect a morning work commute in Cleveland to double when it hits. This however, is temporary and it's not like it happens for weeks at a time. They are good about keeping the roads salted and paved. Regardless, many would prefer not to have to deal with it at all.

The fact remains that there are times in the winter in Cleveland where it just plain sucks to be there.

There are some days in Cincinnati in the summer where you just don't want to be there and would rather be in Cleveland on the lake enjoying a nice breeze instead of muggy weather. There's no need to try and down play Cleveland winter weather, it's talked about on a national level as not being desirable.

Cleveland ranks top 3 for worst winter weather in the US:

https://www.monster.com/career-advic...e-winter-blues

So if you don't want to deal with winter weather work blues, you may want to consider not living in Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Cleveland to name a few.

Commutes in Greater Cleveland are impacted by winter weather only when the storm takes place during the commuting hours, or perhaps a few hours before. The region pre-treats roads in anticipation of storms, often mitigating the impact if there aren't blizzard conditions, and snow and ice removal responses are swift, especially on interstates and other major arteries.

Anyway, if worried about traffic congestion, Greater Cleveland is a far better choice than Columbus or Cincinnati.

https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic...ALL&country=US

Your link to cities with the worst winter weather doesn't work.

[on3]

Regardless of how Cleveland handles it's snow storms, it still ranks top 3 for worse winter weather for workers. This was based on using a survey by staffing firm Accountemps.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by on3

Regardless of how Cleveland handles it's snow storms, it still ranks top 3 for worse winter weather for workers. This was based on using a survey by staffing firm Accountemps.

And still no link substantiating this argument.