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Old 07-24-2008, 08:28 AM
 
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downtown has the lowest or second lowest percentage of vacant class A office space in the metro area (it keeps switching places with blue ash) the vacant buildings are mostly much older Class B and C office spaces, many of which are being converted into condo s and apartments
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:41 PM
 
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You guys are lucky. Is that the 700-something foot tall one?

In Cleveland they were planning on building an 1,100+ foot building, I think it was for Ameritrust. Something went wrong so there not building it anymore though, sadly.
i wouldn't call us lucky, you guys still have the key building, and boy would it look nice in the hole in the middle of our skyline .
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:50 PM
 
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You guys are lucky. Is that the 700-something foot tall one?

In Cleveland they were planning on building an 1,100+ foot building, I think it was for Ameritrust. Something went wrong so there not building it anymore though, sadly.
Our new tallest will only be 660'...not 700-something.

And don't sell yourself short on Cleveland skyscrapers. Two of your tallest will remain higher than Queen City Square. In fact, Key Tower will still be almost 300' taller than QCS.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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Our new tallest will only be 660'...not 700-something.

And don't sell yourself short on Cleveland skyscrapers. Two of your tallest will remain higher than Queen City Square. In fact, Key Tower will still be almost 300' taller than QCS.
looking at the rendering, coupled with a reluctance by the development team to state footage instead of floors, it looks to be a bit taller than 660 ft. still, no way it's 700, but it'll look it with the design.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:35 PM
 
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looking at the rendering, coupled with a reluctance by the development team to state footage instead of floors.....
Oh, that's interesting. I hadn't really noticed. From all I've read about the building in the news and other websites, they say it's going to be 660'. It'll be a really nice addition to the skyline anyway.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:19 PM
 
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Oh, that's interesting. I hadn't really noticed. From all I've read about the building in the news and other websites, they say it's going to be 660'. It'll be a really nice addition to the skyline anyway.
i wouldn't be shocked if 660 is the magic number, but in the last couple official releases and at the groundbreaking, i don't remember anyone specifying the official height. anyway, it's all speculation, so while i'm at it, i think this building is paving the way for a supertall (200 meters or so plus crown) in the middle of the skyline. it's a widening hole, and even if a fortune 500 doesn't relocate to cincy, we have at least two of them (fifth third and macy's) that have shown interest in class A.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:45 PM
 
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I had read originally that the building was going to be 37 floors, and 689'. Then I read something in the news about the developers adding floors, or tweaking the design, so that it looked more slender but still kept the same general design. Next thing I knew, I read the height was going to be 660'. So I'm not sure where the extra floors came in. lol. You're probably right about it all being speculation. It might be taller than what is being reported. Maybe it's only 660' to the roof of the uppermost floor, with the tiara taking it even higher...? I wonder just how high that tiara is.

So you think this might be the impetous to building other taller towers downtown - ? Am I understanding you correctly? I wonder where they would build one in the middle section.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:28 AM
 
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You guys are lucky. Is that the 700-something foot tall one?

In Cleveland they were planning on building an 1,100+ foot building, I think it was for Ameritrust. Something went wrong so there not building it anymore though, sadly.
I wouldn't doubt if the same happens with this particular building, Cle. Cincinnati's been tinkering with "plans" and "breaking ground" about this matter since 1985. Both Cincinnati and Cleveland do all of these downtown big promises, break ground, get started on a building and then it ends up morphing into some 10 story office building. I think this 660 footer is the third shot since 1987, so I'll believe it when I actually see it 660 feet in the air.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:30 AM
 
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I wouldn't doubt if the same happens with this particular building, Cle. Cincinnati's been tinkering with "plans" and "breaking ground" about this matter since 1985. Both Cincinnati and Cleveland do all of these downtown big promises, break ground, get started on a building and then it ends up morphing into some 10 story office building. I think this 660 footer is the third shot since 1987, so I'll believe it when I actually see it 660 feet in the air.
lol, hillarious post. but the garage is already being torn down, and ground has been broken, so if they fool this up...
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:43 AM
 
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I had read originally that the building was going to be 37 floors, and 689'. Then I read something in the news about the developers adding floors, or tweaking the design, so that it looked more slender but still kept the same general design. Next thing I knew, I read the height was going to be 660'. So I'm not sure where the extra floors came in. lol. You're probably right about it all being speculation. It might be taller than what is being reported. Maybe it's only 660' to the roof of the uppermost floor, with the tiara taking it even higher...? I wonder just how high that tiara is.

So you think this might be the impetous to building other taller towers downtown - ? Am I understanding you correctly? I wonder where they would build one in the middle section.
that's really interesting stuff about the 689, i'll try to keep an eye and ear out on that. i'm thinking this is the start of that downtown expansion that was supposed to start in '90 with fifth third's fountain square west project. my thinking is, we could see one or two more major towers go up in the next 15 years, the first probably on some prime real estate around 5th and walnut. the fact that the great american bldg. isn't going to be a supertall, just a pretty-tall, tells me it's more of a project to stimulate and keep the ball rolling, as well as balance out the skyline.
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