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Old 06-04-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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Whew, I'm on my way to Hilton Head!!
You can jab all you want, but people with kids are looking for exactly that. A nice beach front to get the experience of the ocean, but a safe, tranquil, kid-friendly area for everything else. Otherwise they would leave the kids home with grandpa/grandma and head for NYC. Only once, in 50 years, did we leave the kids home with grandpa/grandma and head out on a vacation by ourselves. Then guess where we went, the finger lakes region of New York State, north to Niagara Falls and Toronto, west across Canada to Detroit, and then back home.

My parents loved HHI and went there with an Aunt & Uncle for many years in a row. They were some of the old fuddies like you will see out on the golf courses.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:57 PM
 
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Not sure I follow you there.

Every decent parent smacks the tar out of their kid for acting up in public and expects the same level of manners from every other parent. Nobody, parent or otherwise, wants to spend the money to go on vacation (or go to dinner) only to suffer shrieks and screams. Go to Disney if you want to do that. HHI is quiet. Heck, everywhere should be quiet, except for a Reds game when the home team hits one out.

Remember the ancient basic principle of manners: "Children should be seen and not heard." It's as true now as it was 30 years ago. This generation of parents calling their children "buddy" isn't doing the children or the neighbors and favors.
Okay. So you're the only parent in the history of parents who've had perfectly behaved children. Color me impressed, but forgive me if I don't believe you, but feel free to preach on.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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You can jab all you want, but people with kids are looking for exactly that. A nice beach front to get the experience of the ocean, but a safe, tranquil, kid-friendly area for everything else. Otherwise they would leave the kids home with grandpa/grandma and head for NYC. Only once, in 50 years, did we leave the kids home with grandpa/grandma and head out on a vacation by ourselves. Then guess where we went, the finger lakes region of New York State, north to Niagara Falls and Toronto, west across Canada to Detroit, and then back home.

My parents loved HHI and went there with an Aunt & Uncle for many years in a row. They were some of the old fuddies like you will see out on the golf courses.
I'm not sure when the last time you were in NYC, but you can't go five steps without bumping into kids. In fact, I can't think of a city that draws more families with kids from across the country and around the world (besides Orlando and Washington, D.C.) than New York City. On any given day, there are more kids in Times Square alone than there are in Hilton Head, Myrtle Beach and the Outer Banks combined.

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Old 06-05-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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Under Gulliani there was a concerted effort to make NYC more friendly to familes as tourists. I went there with my family before the Times Square cleanup on a vacation, so it was a bit funny walking around with your mom with XXX signs blinking in all directions. The place was incredibly run-down and intimidating even into the early 1990s, but the city has been glossy and totally unlike its former self since about 2000.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:51 PM
 
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It has been about 10 years since I have been in NYC, to help chaperone my one daughter's high school band on their annual trip, as she was the band director. Even a bunch of teenagers are a handful on a trip to NYC. I just can't imagine going there with young kids. Why, what in the world are they going to be interested in?
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Under Gulliani there was a concerted effort to make NYC more friendly to familes as tourists. I went there with my family before the Times Square cleanup on a vacation, so it was a bit funny walking around with your mom with XXX signs blinking in all directions. The place was incredibly run-down and intimidating even into the early 1990s, but the city has been glossy and totally unlike its former self since about 2000.
I left in 96 when they were closing down all the porn shops between 7th and 8th avenues on 42nd street. Something I never though I would see. Fast forward to 2004 when I was there with my wife and I did not even recognize times square when I got off the A train at the same spot. I had to stop and orient myself. Times Square has had an amazing turn around, simply amazing.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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The Answer Is......... Geography!

- Cincinnati is basically the northernmost point of the south (~30' north of St. Louis). Most people in the Cincinnati Metro area hold similar values with a Midwestern flair so the can seamlessly slip in and out of those areas without feeling like a fish out of water (like going in a McDonalds in Beijing). Myrtle beach is like a big Kings Island with a beach.

- There is no ocean in Ohio. Lake Erie doesnt count. Of the major tourist beach areas on the East coast the shortest drives are Virginia Beach, Hilton Head, and Myrtle Beach (~11 hr each), followed by The Jersey Shore, Ocean City, MD, Outer Banks, NC, *Panama City, FL (~12 hr each, and then most other Florida beaches are 14+ hrs.
*Gulf Coast

- Personal anecdotal points: Im a native Cincinnatian living outside of Philly in NJ. Growing up I went to all mentioned locations from VA Beach south, and additional Florida locations that required flying. Im certain that we didnt go any further north because my parents were intimidated by Northeastern culture, as well as the reputation that New Jersey has throughout the country.

...Having now living in NJ for several years, I've noticed that Southern New Jersians (there is a big difference between N. and S. Jersey) generally dont care that it has that reputation (being really dirty, polluted, scummy, etc), because it keep more tourist out, and they know it isnt true (in south jersey). The reputation basically comes from New Yorkers (and thereby, its media) talking about New Jersey outside of New York City. but because its all called NJ, most non-EastCoast folks assume all of the Jersey Shore is not worth visiting.

After sampling so many east coast beaches, I defiantly think Jersey has the best to choose from. Its the only place on the east coast you can actually surf, and if you stay go to Long Beach Island or south you can generally avoid scummy New Yorkers as seen on MTV. Better food choices (I think) than the southern beaches. Ill be checking out Fenwick Island, DE later this summer so ill have another state's beaches to add to the comparison after that

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Old 06-08-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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The Answer Is......... Geography!

- Cincinnati is basically the northernmost point of the south (~30' north of St. Louis). Most people in the Cincinnati Metro area hold similar values with a Midwestern flair so the can seamlessly slip in and out of those areas without feeling like a fish out of water (like going in a McDonalds in Beijing). Myrtle beach is like a big Kings Island with a beach.

- There is no ocean in Ohio. Lake Erie doesnt count. Of the major tourist beach areas on the East coast the shortest drives are Virginia Beach, Hilton Head, and Myrtle Beach (~11 hr each), followed by The Jersey Shore, Ocean City, MD, Outer Banks, NC, *Panama City, FL (~12 hr each, and then most other Florida beaches are 14+ hrs.
*Gulf Coast

- Personal anecdotal points: Im a native Cincinnatian living outside of Philly in NJ. Growing up I went to all mentioned locations from VA Beach south, and additional Florida locations that required flying. Im certain that we didnt go any further north because my parents were intimidated by Northeastern culture, as well as the reputation that New Jersey has throughout the country.

...Having now living in NJ for several years, I've noticed that Southern New Jersians (there is a big difference between N. and S. Jersey) generally dont care that it has that reputation (being really dirty, polluted, scummy, etc), because it keep more tourist out, and they know it isnt true (in south jersey). The reputation basically comes from New Yorkers (and thereby, its media) talking about New Jersey outside of New York City. but because its all called NJ, most non-EastCoast folks assume all of the Jersey Shore is not worth visiting.

After sampling so many east coast beaches, I defiantly think Jersey has the best to choose from. Its the only place on the east coast you can actually surf, and if you stay go to Long Beach Island or south you can generally avoid scummy New Yorkers as seen on MTV. Better food choices (I think) than the southern beaches. Ill be checking out Fenwick Island, DE later this summer so ill have another state's beaches to add to the comparison after that
You have a unique perspective given your Cincy and NJ roots. Northern New Jersey intimadates me primarily because of a run-in with a friend of a friend from there.....scary meathead type----so I've always painted the whole Jersey shore in the same light, but your post got me thinking about Southern Jersey. It's been my understanding that it's mostly the playground for Philadelphians.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: OH
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You have a unique perspective given your Cincy and NJ roots. Northern New Jersey intimadates me primarily because of a run-in with a friend of a friend from there.....scary meathead type----so I've always painted the whole Jersey shore in the same light, but your post got me thinking about Southern Jersey. It's been my understanding that it's mostly the playground for Philadelphians.
So you're willing to paint NJ with such broad strokes because of one person? I actually agree with much of jasomm's perspective. I haven't observed drastic differences between South Carolinian's that live SC's "urban" areas compared to many Cincinnatians, granted there are a lot of transplants in SC. Every time I'm there, I'm absolutely floored by the amount of Ohio license plates I see down there. It's a lot easier for people in the Cincy area to mesh with the locals in states like NC, SC, GA than NJ, NY, MA, etc.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Just have to laugh that no one brings up the western Michigan coast, which in my opinion blows HH and Myrtle out of the water and is considerably closer even at the northern extremity of it.

But then again, you can't get a Salty Dog Cafe shirt in Michigan
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