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Old 11-19-2009, 11:52 AM
 
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Wilson: I know from your other posts that you don't have a very good impression of NYC, a city that is loved by many. But I wouldn't say it's your fault if you don't like NYC, it's just not the right match for you. Similarly, if someone doesn't like Cincinnati, it may not be the right match for them. To simply generalize that it's a person's fault for not liking Cincinnati is an overstatement.
Well, I know I've taken a shot or two at NYC, but the truth is I really would like the idea of living in Brooklyn where my ancestors lived almost 100 years ago. The fact that Norah Jones just moved back to Brooklyn has a little to do with this. I won't do it, because my wife has enormous family here, but I think I could really enjoy it. But, I can afford to live where I want to and I recognize that most people posting here would be unable to pay 10 or 20 thousand dollars a month for a mortgage or have a black Lincoln pick them up for work. If you fit into that category there is good reason to love NYC. But if your budget is under a million for housing and you will have to use public transportation and your reservation at Cesca means a two hour wait, you might be a better candidate for Cincinnati than NYC.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:51 PM
 
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This thread has proven to me one thing. People want to complain and are not happy unless they are miserable. Take a look at yourself and find out why you are so miserable, maybe it is your marriage, maybe it is your job. I doubt you would be happy anywhere.
On the contrary, your statement is a perfect example of why outsiders sometimes have a negative perception of some Cincinnati residents.

I like Cincinnati and I have respect for Cincinnati residents, but I'm amazed that some people here are so defensive. Someone may not like Cincinnati because it's not a good match for them. Period. It doesn't mean that you should telll them that if they don't like Cincinnati, the real problem may be with these people's marriages, jobs, or personalities. You don't even know these people and you're already claiming that you've diagnosed their personal problems! Come on!

By the way, you should know that you're contradicting yourself by complaining about those who complain! Based on your logic, you should take a look at yourself and find the deeper reason behind why you've a problem with those that have concerns with certain aspects of the city (but I wouldn't ask you to do so since I don't know you).
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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^^^

I kind of agree with this statement. I'm a life long resident of Cincy and I love to defend this place, but only to a limit. The pro's are slighty out-matched by the grievances, but at least the city is finally trying to fix those problems. Cincinnati is NOT for everyone. Hell, Cincy is NOT for everyone that was born here as well
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:58 AM
 
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RandyWatson, what part of the city did/do you live? There are parts that if I lived there, I'd probably feel the same way.

The truth is, no - I didn't live here most of my life. My S.O. is also not from here. Probably 1/3 of our friends are not from here and they appear to be "plugged in" more than most lifelong residents to be honest with you.

To assume that we are not social ... the ones that moved to Cincinnati from another city is just silly.

My schedule stays full and I simply cannot keep up with my friend's/colleagues bar hops, events, sports, etc. invites.

Sure, it could be the city, but in a metro with the most bars per capita in the nation, world class art scene, 2 professional sports teams (and AHL hockey team, great shopping experience, ballet, amazing colleges (and 2nd largest Univ. in the state), great restaurant options, character filled architecture, some of the midwest's best NBD's, and one of the largest F500 per capita presence in the nation ... I'm going to say the ball is in your court.

We lived in Blue Ash, and yes maybe it was just bad luck and the hundreds of people we met were just anti-social, but after we moved to Cincinnati we did research and we did hear from other people that Cincinnati does have a very "if you arent from here, then *********" attitude, the one person I made friends with here told me this much.. When I first brought it up to him he started laughing..And he told me "I was just listening to the radio today and people who lived in Cincinnati from all over the US were calling in about their expericenes living in cincy, and all of them said the same thing you did"

So that made me feel a little better.

And no I am not an extreme democract or republican MOST of the people of Cincinnati are very conservitive, and you wouldve thought that the world came to an end when Obama got elected.

Like whoever said, yeah I have a place to vent about the city, and Im glad I did. And now noone can say "if you dont like it...get out"...because we did, and we will never go back to cincinnati.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:30 AM
 
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And no I am not an extreme democract or republican MOST of the people of Cincinnati are very conservitive, and you wouldve thought that the world came to an end when Obama got elected.
Oh yea, sure. That's why Cincinnati has had a Democrat or Charterite Mayor for 40 years, there are three of 9 council members who are Republican and that's why in November 2008 Obama got 108,100 votes and McCain got 34,852.

Oh, yea, you know all about Cincinnati politics.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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We lived in Blue Ash, and yes maybe it was just bad luck and the hundreds of people we met were just anti-social, but after we moved to Cincinnati we did research and we did hear from other people that Cincinnati does have a very "if you arent from here, then *********" attitude, the one person I made friends with here told me this much.. When I first brought it up to him he started laughing..And he told me "I was just listening to the radio today and people who lived in Cincinnati from all over the US were calling in about their expericenes living in cincy, and all of them said the same thing you did"

So that made me feel a little better.

And no I am not an extreme democract or republican MOST of the people of Cincinnati are very conservitive, and you wouldve thought that the world came to an end when Obama got elected.

Like whoever said, yeah I have a place to vent about the city, and Im glad I did. And now noone can say "if you dont like it...get out"...because we did, and we will never go back to cincinnati.

Well, there you go! lol ... you moved to Blue Ash, that's your problem!

Your political knowledge is waaaaay off. Cincinnati voted for Obama by more than 74%, this is all public knowledge man ... no need to make stuff up. Hell, even Hamilton county swung for Obama, not only a democratic swing, but a vote for the blackman. Wenstrup had no chance because of that little "r" behind his name for mayor. Mallory didn't even campaign and still won.

Like Wilson said, our political system is ran by dems and will be for a very long time.

Again, you move to a younger area where, that's not family oriented and you'll fit right in. Like I said upthread and this is a fact - Cincinnati has more bars/clubs per capita than any metro in the U.S. Should we be ranked #1 for nightlife because of that by Forbe's, hell no! ... but the fact remains, we love our extracurricular activities!

The shopping point that Barca_fan brought up is a fluke. There isn't one type of shopping, just like there isn't one type of dining. Barca, do you know if jokerofspades is from here? I don't remember that being clear?

Again, with CSL, the amazing NBD's, restaurant options, bar/club options, social clubs, ease of meeting new people (from experience), others that have moved here, etc., etc., I find it hard to believe that you are not making any effort. Get out of the house!

Notes from reading this thread:

Barca_fan, I would say that the majority of Cincinnatians are displeased with status quo, versus what you've stated the mindset of locals to be. We ***** about everything.

RandyWatson, what radio station was it?
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Hartwell--IN THE City of Cincinnati
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I just dont get it when people say things about the people from Cincinnati. I grew up in W. Chester, nice people, stayed in their homes a lot more than any other place I lived. After HS, moved to Fairfield, again, nice people-little more social-I knew everyone of my neighbors. Then moved to Greenhills, great people, very social-you can barely work in the yard without talking to a few neighbors and loosing track of time. People watch out for eachother, I knew every single person on my street. THen I moved to Hartwell--the nicest people I have ever met and why I tell people "you can pick your house, but you cant pick your neighbors, and we got really lucky picking this house with great neighbors". People came out the day we were moving in, had the names & numbers of our neighbors dropped off to us, people have progressive dinners, mens weekends, ladies nights, chili cookoffs, bon-fires (a lot of those!), holiday parties, and pretty much look for reasons to get together with our neighbors. We dont need to hang out at bars and other places, we dont even have to get into a car, just open the door and there you go! People need to pull up the blinds in their homes, leave the front door open a little more and welcome people into your lives instead of sitting back and complaining that this City has nothing to offer because although I have lived in the Greater Cincinnati area for most of my life, I have never met any kinder or generous people.

So, for all you complainers out there who think Cincinnati doesnt have anything to do or the people of Cincinnati are not receptive to meet new people, I'll see you at the City Data meet up this morning 'cause I've been to all of them because I LIKE to meet new people, I make TIME to meet new people and if you choose not to do do something about your complaint, than please, dont complain because it doesnt matter where you live its how YOU choose to live your life..
Excuse my soapbox rant...
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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Again, you move to a younger area where, that's not family oriented and you'll fit right in.
Cincy-Rise: You're saying that if you move to an area which is NOT family oriented, you'll fit right in.

Hartwell Girl: You're saying that if you move to an area which is family oriented that you'll fit right in.

Randy Watson lived in Blue Ash, I live in a younger, less family oriented area close to downtown.

Why do we think we see a slightly different picture than you do? Could it be that Randy and I are not from this area, while Hartwell Girl grew up here (and you grew up in the midwest, right?)

Here's a quick summary of the responses any criticism of Cincinnati has met so far:

- live in a less family oriented area and get out more often
- live in a more family oriented area
- re-think marriage, job, etc.
- stop complaining
- your political knowledge is way off if you think Cincinnati is conservative

Based on your suggestions, I'll stop saying anything remotely negative about Cincinnati in the future, marry someone from my own gender here, give up a 100K job, live 6 months in downtown and 6 months in the suburbs, and tell my friends and colleagues who label Obama as a socialist that they are only lying and I really know who they vote for. Yes, that will improve the quality of my life in Cincinnati

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Old 11-21-2009, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Hartwell--IN THE City of Cincinnati
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Hartwell Girl: You're saying that if you move to an area which is family oriented that you'll fit right in.
Let me break down my neighbors for you--maybe you can analyze things a little better.
Directly next door-husband & wife-have lived in their home for over 30 years. Did not raise children here.
Other side of me- Young couple, one elem. age child.
next to them-husband & wife-2 college kids.
next to them-husband & wife-2 college kids.
next to them-single woman
next to them-husband & wife-3 elem. age children
next to them-older couple, no children
next to them-single mom-2 elem kids
next to them-single older man
next to them-single young man
next to him-single older gentlemen
Across the street -husband & wife-4 elem kids
next to them-single older woman
next to them-husband & wife-3 adult kids
next to them-husband & wife-2 adult kid-1 college kid
next to them-husband & wife-1 adult kid
next to them-single man
next to them-husband & wife w/newborn
next to them-single older woman
next to them-single older man
next to them-older couple
next to them-older man
next to them-older single woman
(none of the adult kids or college kids live at home)

Quite a variety wouldnt you say?
My point behind this complete break down is I know every single person on my street-from one end to the other..if you live in a neighborhood that is what you do, otherwise buy 10 acres and build yourself a house in the middle of it...with privacy fence.

We spend time with eachother because we like to, AND it's better than being a hermit. We dont care how old you are or where you live before you moved her or how many kids you have or when you went to high school or college or who you vote for....pretty much all we care about is that you have a pulse and you WANT to know your neighbors.
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Old 11-22-2009, 03:45 PM
 
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Cincy-Rise: You're saying that if you move to an area which is NOT family oriented, you'll fit right in.

Hartwell Girl: You're saying that if you move to an area which is family oriented that you'll fit right in.

Randy Watson lived in Blue Ash, I live in a younger, less family oriented area close to downtown.

Why do we think we see a slightly different picture than you do? Could it be that Randy and I are not from this area, while Hartwell Girl grew up here (and you grew up in the midwest, right?)

Here's a quick summary of the responses any criticism of Cincinnati has met so far:

- live in a less family oriented area and get out more often
- live in a more family oriented area
- re-think marriage, job, etc.
- stop complaining
- your political knowledge is way off if you think Cincinnati is conservative

Based on your suggestions, I'll stop saying anything remotely negative about Cincinnati in the future, marry someone from my own gender here, give up a 100K job, live 6 months in downtown and 6 months in the suburbs, and tell my friends and colleagues who label Obama as a socialist that they are only lying and I really know who they vote for. Yes, that will improve the quality of my life in Cincinnati

Yeah I was going to say the same exact thing that you posted, Any criticism of Cincinnati has been met with "well you live in the wrong area"...Believe me, I didnt stay in Blue Ash the whole time I was in Cincinnati we went all over throughout different areas of Cincinnati and it was all the same (as far as people go).

I can understand if you have lived in Cincinnati most of your life why you wouldnt see things the way a "newbie" does. But where there is smoke there is usually fire. People dont just single out Cincinnati for no reason about the way they treat out of towners. And Cincinnati is very conservative, just because Obama did win Hamilton county (which Im sure has something to do with the african american community voting in record numbers), doesnt mean that all of a sudden people werent conservative anymore.


Since moving to our new state out in the west coast we have made more friends in the past month than we did in a whole year plus in Cincinnati. It sucks because we wanted to make friends so badly but it never happened....

Like I said I made 1 friend in Cincinnati and even he said that he has seen how people from Cincinnati treat out of towners and he has lived in Cincinnati his whole life.

But to anyone who loves Cincinnati I AM NOT trying to attack you, I understand that Cincy has treated you great and you have no reason not to love it, But for my wife and I, it was the complete opposite.
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