People say Cincy hasn't changed...but it has. (Cincinnati: crime, homes)

[hillside]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

Reminds me of Harlem ... Sure, there's white investment and developers coming in now, but the trend was started by wealthy blacks investing back into their neighborhood.

Sounds like the West End pre-75...

[jlrosen]

Originally Posted by hillside

Sounds like the West End pre-75...

you're right about that. I-75 destroyed the burgeoning black middle class

[Cincy-Rise]

I watched the best documentary the other day ... it was on History or A&E, something like that ... anyway, jlrosen & hillside - you would have loved it.

It was about the subways in Los Angeles and how GM destroyed the urban center by buying up the subway stations, closing them, then letting them sit vacant. Very similar to the situation with 75 cutting through the West End.

At the end of the doc, they said that LA shot itself in the foot and to this day, the subways would have solved so many of the problems that the city faces today (sound familiar?).

[The Don]

Originally Posted by jstn

Actually, you may be on target here. According to the interactive chart for 2008 murders presented on cincinnati.com (Interactive: Deadly Streets | Cincinnati Enquirer | Cincinnati.Com), there were murders in 22 different neighborhoods. Sure, some of these are probably domestic cases, so the overall safety wouldn't necessarily be comprimised...unless you are the wife. But still, that's a lot of neighborhoods being effected.

The most aggrevating thing about the Enquirer article shows that only 2 of the murders occurred east of I-71.

At one time Western Hills was one of the safer areas of the city -- no longer!

Looks like the deliberate efforts of city leaders are having their impact.

[jlrosen]

that's the free market at work, Section 8 vouchers go to where the property values are lower.

[DedeLynn]

Cincinnati has changed and is going to keep changing like every where else.
Time changes everything and sadly Cincinnati is not changing for the better.
Pollution, Population, Drugs and so on have had a nasty effect on the world.
Cincinnati my hometown is no exception. Each time I visit home my heart breaks a little more.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by DedeLynn

Cincinnati has changed and is going to keep changing like every where else.
Time changes everything and sadly Cincinnati is not changing for the better.
Pollution, Population, Drugs and so on have had a nasty effect on the world.
Cincinnati my hometown is no exception. Each time I visit home my heart breaks a little more.

What in the **** are you talking about?!

*nevermind, I just saw your location ... forgive me*

[DedeLynn]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

What in the **** are you talking about?!

*nevermind, I just saw your location ... forgive me*

I forgive you.
Though I am a bit curious as to why you found it necessary to be so rude and prejudice towards me.

[wilson1010]

Originally Posted by jlrosen

that's the free market at work, Section 8 vouchers go to where the property values are lower.

Now, I admit not to have read much of this thread, so excuse me in advance if you were joking, but you were joking, right? That's like saying poor people commit more crimes. Section 8 vouchers CAUSE property values to go down, and committing crimes CAUSES people to become poor. If we don't accept these truths, there is no hope.

[QCP]

Originally Posted by DedeLynn

I forgive you.
Though I am a bit curious as to why you found it necessary to be so rude and prejudice towards me.

Because that's what he (Cincy-Rise) does. Don't worry, you weren't singled out. Anyone that has even the slightest hint of a negative view about Cincinnati get's treated the same way. He thinks he is taking a stand for the city, but in reality his arrogant, sarcastic and often rude tone on this board is a major turn-off when it comes to actually looking at the city from a non-biased point of view. If you go back and read some of his other posts, you'll find that he is the one and only person that contributes to the Cincy forum that is completely incapable of having a meaningful discussion. He thinks he knows all, but in reality all he can contribute is some googles stats, directions to the nearest watering hole and a biased, arrogant opinion as if it were fact.

My guess...a young, little twerp trying too hard to over-compensate for something. Anyways, I'm sure this post will get this fearless cyber-bully's sweater vest all ruffled and his French Vanilla Latte boiling. I sure hope he doesn't come after me...

And by the way, your post that was lost in all of this, is pretty much how many of us that have moved away feel.