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Old 06-23-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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update: Over-the-Rhine Most Dangerous Neighborhood in U.S. See link.


http://www.local12.com/news/local/st...lA.cspx?rss=30
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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yeah I saw that and it surprised me. I'm assuming this is just part of that neighborhood? The photos I've seen of OTR are beautiful!
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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The stats they used to come up with this are bogus.

There is a breakdown here. UrbanCincy: "Intellectually dishonest" report claims OTR is nation's most dangerous neighborhood (http://www.urbancincy.com/2009/06/intellectually-dishonest-report-claims.html - broken link)
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:27 PM
 
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Is the area referred to actually in Over the Rhine or is it part of the West End?

Having been in a great majority of the neighborhoods in that study, most of the areas cited are not the "whole neighborhood" but are small subdivisions of a larger neighborhood.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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The "most dangerous" study is talking about the Northwestern quarter of OTR as well as part of the West End.

It's Cincinnati's own local media that's been screaming about "OTR" being the most dangerous neighborhood, despite the study's boundaries being quite different.

The segment of OTR in the study is the part that's mostly vacant, but is also the infamous prostitution area. So when you divide the number of crimes by the lack of residents ... you get a really high ratio.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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it is what it is. if a crime is committed, a record is kept. all this talk of the stats being 'bogus' or skewed is nonsense.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:49 PM
 
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it is what it is. if a crime is committed, a record is kept. all this talk of the stats being 'bogus' or skewed is nonsense.
No, it really is bogus. It's just common sense man, nothing scientific ... just think about it for a second.
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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Default Here are some stats

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The stats they used to come up with this are bogus.

There is a breakdown here. UrbanCincy: "Intellectually dishonest" report claims OTR is nation's most dangerous neighborhood (http://www.urbancincy.com/2009/06/intellectually-dishonest-report-claims.html - broken link)

Crime
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Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH, violent crime, on a scale from 1 (low crime) to 10, is 6. Violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The US average is 3.

Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH, property crime, on a scale from 1 (low) to 10, is 5. Property crime includes the offenses of burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson. The object of the theft-type offenses is the taking of money or property, but there is no force or threat of force against the victims. The US average is 3.

The 2009 Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH, population is 14,224. There are 5,464 people per square mile (population density).

Family in Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH
The median age is 35. The US median is 37.6. 25.51% of people in Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH, are married. 14.37% are divorced.

The average household size is 1.67 people. 2.47% of people are married, with children. 13.16% have children, but are single.

Race in Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH
42.12% of people are white, 53.72% are black, 1.34% are asian, 0.29% are native american, and 3.11% claim 'Other'.

2.40% of the people in Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH, claim hispanic ethnicity (meaning 97.60% are non-hispanic).

There are 443 physicians per 100,000 population in Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH. The US average is 170.

Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH Health Index
Air quality in Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH is 11 on a scale to 100 (higher is better). This is based on ozone alert days and number of pollutants in the air, as reported by the EPA.

Water quality in Cincinnati (zip 45210), OH is 28 on a scale to 100 (higher is better). The EPA has a complex method of measuring watershed quality using 15 indicators.

Superfund index is 19 on a scale to 100 (higher is better). This is upon the number and impact of EPA Superfund pollution sites in the county, including spending on the cleanup efforts.


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Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH, violent crime, on a scale from 1 (low crime) to 10, is 7. Violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The US average is 3.

Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH, property crime, on a scale from 1 (low) to 10, is 7. Property crime includes the offenses of burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson. The object of the theft-type offenses is the taking of money or property, but there is no force or threat of force against the victims. The US average is 3.

The 2009 Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH, population is 9,449. There are 4,335 people per square mile (population density).

Family in Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH
The median age is 30.6. The US median is 37.6. 32.27% of people in Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH, are married. 12.24% are divorced.

The average household size is 2.32 people. 8.04% of people are married, with children. 23.43% have children, but are single.

Race in Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH
22.18% of people are white, 72.54% are black, 0.98% are asian, 0.58% are native american, and 3.82% claim 'Other'.

2.49% of the people in Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH, claim hispanic ethnicity (meaning 97.51% are non-hispanic).


There are 444 physicians per 100,000 population in Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH. The US average is 170.

Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH Health Index
Air quality in Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH is 11 on a scale to 100 (higher is better). This is based on ozone alert days and number of pollutants in the air, as reported by the EPA.

Water quality in Cincinnati (zip 45214), OH is 28 on a scale to 100 (higher is better). The EPA has a complex method of measuring watershed quality using 15 indicators.

Superfund index is 20 on a scale to 100 (higher is better). This is upon the number and impact of EPA Superfund pollution sites in the county, including spending on the cleanup efforts.
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:50 AM
 
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"On a scale from 1 to 10" ... What?! lol ...


Water quality?
Demographics?
The number of doctors?
Marital statuses?

What in the hell does this have to do with an intersection? What in God's name is going on in this post? lol


45214 - Google Maps
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:31 AM
 
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I find this rather confusing. First, there is no zipcode "45210" which is what the study seems to be based on. There was a "45210" many years ago, but not now. It has to have been at least 5 years, maybe 10 years since the zipcode was removed. Don't think its just cosmetic. The USPS does not deliver to 45210. If you use that as your zipcode in OTR, you don't get any mail. And, I think I'm right in the middle of OTR and my zipcode is 45202. What is 45214 anyway? Is that South Fairmont or something? And, the West End is not OTR. It may use the 45202 zipcode, but so does Mt. Adams. I can't imagine how one could collect reliable date from reports using a zipcode that doesn't exist. To me, that says the data is bogus.
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