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Old 10-10-2009, 07:44 PM
 
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Hey everyone, I'm seriously considering moving to Cincinnati next year. I'm 26/m from NYC and engaged--we're both liberal, into arts and music, physically active. I'd work downtown in the Central Business District near Fountain Square; she'd work at the University of Cincinnati. We'd have a combined income of around $180k, and a combined student debt of around $250k. Looking for somewhere reasonable in cost (under $200k), safe, and not too far out. What are the best areas for that description in your learned opinions?
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:06 AM
 
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Hey everyone, I'm seriously considering moving to Cincinnati next year. I'm 26/m from NYC and engaged--we're both liberal, into arts and music, physically active. I'd work downtown in the Central Business District near Fountain Square; she'd work at the University of Cincinnati. We'd have a combined income of around $180k, and a combined student debt of around $250k. Looking for somewhere reasonable in cost (under $200k), safe, and not too far out. What are the best areas for that description in your learned opinions?
I think you'd have fun living downtown. Do a search on here for downtown living. Others may chime in on this alternative. But, its a mainstream choice for a new lawyer from out of town and convenient to the University.

Note that OTR is not downtown. OTR is north of downtown and a whole different thing.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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Thanks for the advice. What is OTR?
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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OTR = Over the Rhine

It is a very historic area with a colorful past. It has recently been transforming itself. There are some nice lofts down there. It's definitely urban living, if that is what you are looking for. It gets a bad rap and some people will tell you to steer clear from the area but if you are looking for urban/historic/diversity it might be up your alley.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Thanks for the advice. What is OTR?

See above.

I have nothing against OTR. I go to work there every day. I just am pretty sure you would like downtown a lot better.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:13 PM
 
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OTR = Over the Rhine

It is a very historic area with a colorful past. It has recently been transforming itself. There are some nice lofts down there. It's definitely urban living, if that is what you are looking for. It gets a bad rap and some people will tell you to steer clear from the area but if you are looking for urban/historic/diversity it might be up your alley.
It gets a bad rap for a reason. It is an inner-city area that is heavily blighted and is a high crime area. (My family lived in OTR for years and we were parishioners at Old St. Mary's at E. 13th and Clay St.)

Yes, some developers have begun to rehab some of the properties, especially in the eastern portion of the area. However, this process is occurring very slowly and is on a block by block basis.

In my opinion, unless you are an urban pioneer who gets into rehabbing old properties, I would pass. Most people who like the urban lifestyle would like a place where you and your family can actually walk down the street after dinner and meet up with your neighbors and the like. OTR is not there yet.
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:23 AM
 
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Yes, some developers have begun to rehab some of the properties, especially in the eastern portion of the area. However, this process is occurring very slowly and is on a block by block basis.

In my opinion, unless you are an urban pioneer who gets into rehabbing old properties, I would pass. Most people who like the urban lifestyle would like a place where you and your family can actually walk down the street after dinner and meet up with your neighbors and the like. OTR is not there yet.
The "eastern" part, huh? lol ... bro, leave the recommendations for people who are familiar with an area.

This ain't your parent's Over-the-Rhine

This is why Cincinnati sucks

Actually, the GQ is one of the hottest areas for RE sales in the city.

Be careful who you get advice from, newlawyer2010 ... a quick google search of "jlawrence01" reveals a 'neck that seems to spend his time using his old family church experience to advise people to avoid the whole part of the neighborhood. Go to the Gateway Quarter sales office and talk to someone in person, let them show you around, and I'm sure you're smart enough to make your own decision. There are already projects that are completely sold out ... and I'm sure this is because people like yourself are pouring into the area while it's affordable. A neighborhood is either on the rebound, declining, or stagnant.

THE GATEWAY QUARTER , Urban Loft Condos in Downtown Cincinnati
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:15 AM
 
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Be careful who you get advice from, newlawyer2010 ... a quick google search of "jlawrence01" reveals a 'neck that seems to spend his time using his old family church experience to advise people to avoid the whole part of the neighborhood. Go to the Gateway Quarter sales office and talk to someone in person, let them show you around, and I'm sure you're smart enough to make your own decision. There are already projects that are completely sold out ... and I'm sure this is because people like yourself are pouring into the area while it's affordable. A neighborhood is either on the rebound, declining, or stagnant.
Absolutely agree, newlawyer. Walk up Elm St. to 16th St, Then head back south on Race St and see if ***YOU ARE*** comfortable walking that neighborhood at night.

I am a realist NOT a promoter.
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:37 AM
 
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I think you'd have fun living downtown. Do a search on here for downtown living. Others may chime in on this alternative. But, its a mainstream choice for a new lawyer from out of town and convenient to the University.

Note that OTR is not downtown. OTR is north of downtown and a whole different thing.
OK, now that that's all over, here is your advice.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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Absolutely agree, newlawyer. Walk up Elm St. to 16th St, Then head back south on Race St and see if ***YOU ARE*** comfortable walking that neighborhood at night.

I am a realist NOT a promoter.
... and I'm an area resident, not a 'neck who "knows" what it's like because my family have been going to St. Mary's for the past 200 years. lol

Who has a stronger opinion: someone that lives there, or someone that avoids the area because they think their life is in danger?

I never said that the area is 100% there yet, but you've completely avoided my point for good reason.

I'll ask, is OTR on the rebound, declining, or stagnant? Let's see how honest you are.

newlawyer2010, one search I found, jlawrence01 was warning people not to walk from DT to Findlay Market ... my 95 pound wife used to do this weekly!

The best crime prevention is eyes on the street and there isn't an area in the entire tri-state hotter than the GQ in OTR as far as sales go - NAME ONE. These condos are going to skyrocket in value in the next 10 years, see D.C. and Boston for perfect examples.

Wilson, you work in OTR near Liberty, right ... is 3CDC not converting abandoned buildings like crazy? Actually, about a week ago city council just approved for a slew of even more buildings to be renovated. Don't take my word for it ... go to the site and see the sales for yourself, it's all public knowledge!

http://www.gatewayquarter.com/
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