Cincinnatians: Rude, friendly, or average? (refrigerator, wedding, place to live)

[austiNati]

Originally Posted by David Aguilar

The 2008 American Community Survey shows the city of Cincinnati as having 294,771 residents, with 68,976 of them being born out of state

Interesting. I was under the impression that by the next census, Cincy would have a population anywhere between 380-400,000. guess we'll have to wait and see

[David Aguilar]

Originally Posted by austiNati

Interesting. I was under the impression that by the next census, Cincy would have a population anywhere between 380-400,000. guess we'll have to wait and see

Yeah, I was surprised that the number is so small as well. It appears as if the city itself is still shrinking in population.

[Hartwell Girl]

Originally Posted by David Aguilar

Yeah, I was surprised that the number is so small as well. It appears as if the city itself is still shrinking in population.

About the ONLY thing I agree with Mayor Mallory is that the City is NOT loosing population.
The schools speak for themselves....even a lot of the new built CPS schools are over crowded. A private group did a projection of CPS students and said it was declining, even though the rest of us who lived in these neighborhoods knew that wasnt happening.
The Mayor had a group do more research based on utility bills etc. and THAT is how they found more people than the last census reported...why..probably because even though you are required by law to complete the census, many dont. I know we filled ours out immediately, however I can see where many dont give a crap and just disregard them...sad but true...people just dont realize how we are missing out on federal dollars because they are lazy.

[David Aguilar]

Originally Posted by Hartwell Girl

About the ONLY thing I agree with Mayor Mallory is that the City is NOT loosing population.
The schools speak for themselves....even a lot of the new built CPS schools are over crowded. A private group did a projection of CPS students and said it was declining, even though the rest of us who lived in these neighborhoods knew that wasnt happening.
The Mayor had a group do more research based on utility bills etc. and THAT is how they found more people than the last census reported...why..probably because even though you are required by law to complete the census, many dont. I know we filled ours out immediately, however I can see where many dont give a crap and just disregard them...sad but true...people just dont realize how we are missing out on federal dollars because they are lazy.

You have some great points here, but the 2008 ACS (American Community Survey) isn't required by law, it's based on a sample. The only census required by law is the Decennial Census, which we get to do again in 2010. In 2000, we didn't send our census form in, and they politely stopped by our house for an hour and got the information they needed. Even if you aren't counted directly, the census takers do their best to investigate who lives in each housing unit (by asking neighbors, etc).

I don't have a stake in Cincinnati losing population or not, I was just providing the numbers. As for schools gaining population, that isn't necessarily indicative of a city growing, it just means there are more kids. For instance, in the city I live in, we've gained quite a bit of population, but have shuttered no less than a dozen schools in the past few years.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by David Aguilar

Cincinnati metro has 2,155,435 residents, with 580,616 being born in a different state. But keep in mind, at least a portion of those were likely born in the area and have simply crossed state lines. With taking that into account (along with the fact that CIN metro touches three states), the percentage of those born out of state (26.9%) is still not impressive IMO, there are other metros that far exceed that number, even some that are nowhere near state lines.

If this were the case, I think we'd see more than just one county in the Cincy MSA, in IN and KY losing population ... no?

It is interesting to me that you didn't address this stat.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by David Aguilar

Yeah, I was surprised that the number is so small as well. It appears as if the city itself is still shrinking in population.

The city population is growing. The challenge was submitted and approved.

The fact that the U.S. Census is a joke, cities like Cincinnati have too much to lose from half-assed underpaid census workers... see below:


City of Cincinnati intends to be fully counted for 2010 Census with new task-force group

Census Bureau goes forward with plans to ditch PDAs -- Engadget

Problems with census PDAs could prompt a return to pencil and paper -- Engadget

[David Aguilar]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

If this were the case, I think we'd see more than just one county in the Cincy MSA, in IN and KY losing population ... no?

It is interesting to me that you didn't address this stat.

There's nothing to address. I think you are missing the point.

Counties don't need to lose population in order for its residents to have been born out of state. Nor do counties need to lose population in order for in-metro migration to occur. Remember, even if half of Kenton County's residents move away, as long as the other half is having children to replace them, it won't lose any population.

Example:
John Doe, his wife Jane. and their two kids Michael and Ashley live in the city of Cincinnati, and were all born in the state of Ohio. They decide to move to Covington for some reason. That would at 4 residents to the CIN MSA to the "born in a different state than residence column".

Meanwhile, Jack Smith, his wife Jill, and their two kids Brandon and Kaitlin move into John's old house in Cincinnati. They were all born in Columbus.

Thus, CIN MSA's net loss of those born in state is 0 (zero).

As far as the city growing or not goes, if it's growing, great.

[Cincy-Rise]

^ That's a lot folks scratching to get into OH from KY and IN ... and babies!

[joefosho]

Cincinnati People are nice, but once you offend them- they are gone. bam....!

I do it all the time, accidentally, too because I'm from Chicago and the sense of humor is a little more direct.

To me, the culture is unpredictable.

I've had some room mates from the Eastside and I noticed that they would get pissed off easily at things that a Chicagoan would understand. Like I would throw back a few beers and eat a hot dog or something that was theirs and find some gay note on my door the next day.

I'd offer to replace it and even go and buy other food, but they usually would be pissed about it for a while.

Uptight for college students.

They are pretend nice and you can't join their cliques easily. Do one thing wrong and you are out for good!

Cincy-Rise-- this place isn't going anywhere till its citizens lighten up a bit!

I'm Catholic and conservative, but yet I still feel unwelcomed in Cincy. Like someone else was saying, there is a vibe here about "Hmm that is not Cincinnatians way, it should be shunned!"

So yes, Cincinnati is rude. Not directly, but more indirectly. My last room mates barely talk, have no personality and I just found out I can't stay there. I'm basically being indirectly kicked out- in rude, Cincinnati fashion. They don't respond to texts to go to a party.

APPALACHION CULTURE- Watch what you say or be shunned!- this applies in Cincinnati

GERMAN CULTURE- Little or no sarcasm or HUMOR

I'm sure the cliquish part falls in somewhere in between those two cultures.

Young people leave Cincinnati because it is simply not welcoming to them. I will be leaving as well.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by joefosho

I've had some room mates from the Eastside and I noticed that they would get pissed off easily at things that a Chicagoan would understand. Like I would throw back a few beers and eat a hot dog or something that was theirs and find some gay note on my door the next day.

Yes, this is something that all Cincinnatians would do.

So yes, Cincinnati is rude. ...

APPALACHION CULTURE- Watch what you say or be shunned!- this applies in Cincinnati

GERMAN CULTURE- Little or no sarcasm or HUMOR

...

So, you've not only summarized and grouped the entire city into one category, but all Germans as well ... gotcha.