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Old 06-08-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'm not an east coaster, but have been to every major city there, in part because they remind me of larger, more gentrified versions of Cincinnati with better transit. I'm really fond of the old rowhouse/townhouse look of the early to mid Victorian era that you won't find so much to the west of Cincy but is all over the place in the Northeast. OTR actually feels a lot like Hoboken or some parts of Brooklyn. I'd even argue there is a touch of San Fran in places in Cincy as both cities have a lot of buildings from the 1870s of high quality (though San Fran's are usually wood and Cincy's are usually brick).

Here are some comparisons to northeast cities:

OTR (Vine Street):



East Williamsburgh, Brooklyn (the Puerto Rican area not the hipster or the hasidic one):




North End, Boston:



Pendleton, Cincinnati:



Row Houses, Philly:



Row Houses Newport KY:



The biggest difference is the amount of people/activity because these sorts of neighborhoods didn't fall apart on the east coast (actually they are now all quite desireable - other than maybe the philly one - even if they weren't 20-30 years ago) the way they did in Cincy.

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Old 06-08-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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Um, why is this even a question? It is a fact that the dominant architectural styles and built scale of Cincinnati are pretty much identical to contemporaneous areas in East Coast cities.

Kjbrill, going back to the first page -- seriously, stick a sock in it. Your generation ruined this city. Suburbs like Mason are an Empire of Dirt, and nothing more.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Cincy-Rise... loved your photos. Made me realize why my parents went to the suburbs 70 years ago.
Makes me sad that so many people like your parents abandoned the city and as a result the soul of the Cincinnati region is being slowly sucked away into mediocrity.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Thanks for the pics, neilworms2! Great comparisons.
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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Um, why is this even a question? It is a fact that the dominant architectural styles and built scale of Cincinnati are pretty much identical to contemporaneous areas in East Coast cities.

Kjbrill, going back to the first page -- seriously, stick a sock in it. Your generation ruined this city. Suburbs like Mason are an Empire of Dirt, and nothing more.
I guess you are going to try and tell me when OTR is completed it will look like the same area of over a century ago? Commercial buildings will have been converted to high-priced lofts and condos. Crime will be alleviated by pushing all of the low-income people out of the neighborhood. Retail businesses and restaurants will come back in but with a much smaller base of customers and therefore much higher prices. Downtown is becoming the 21st Century version of Mason, cater to the wealthy and everyone else be damned.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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IDowntown is becoming the 21st Century version of Mason, cater to the wealthy and everyone else be damned.
If you would quit knocking it and come through for a visit maybe you would like what you see. But otherwise you have no idea what is downtown or what it will be.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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If you would quit knocking it and come through for a visit maybe you would like what you see. But otherwise you have no idea what is downtown or what it will be.
I do not have to physically visit to understand what is going on, as I still have the ability to read. Granted some of what I read I do not necessarily believe as the gospel truth, as many like to emblish their positions with less than factual statements, no let me revise that with statements they cannot necessarily guarantee will be accomplished.

But my first and foremost question, are you telling me downtown Cincinnati is going to be restored to the residential density of the mid-1800s? I simply cannot believe that. So my question is, after all of this urban restoration, what will the residential makeup of the City core be? Give me some statistics as to % of national income or some other statistics to indicate this is not an elitiest project.

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Old 06-08-2012, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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I do not have to physically visit to understand what is going on, as I still have the ability to read. Granted some of what I read I do not necessarily believe as the gospel truth, as many like to emblish their positions with less than factual statements. But my first and foremost question, are you telling me downtown Cincinnati is going to be restored to the residential density of the mid-1800s? I simply cannot believe that. So my question is, after all of this urban restoration, what will the residential makeup of the City core be? Give me some statistics as to % of national income or some other statistics to indicate this is not an elitiest project.

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Old 06-08-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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It is a nice polished, government type presentation. That is one of the benefits of our internet, anyone with a few bucks to spend can produce a polished presentation. But see, it is all grqphics, photos, and words. Doesn't mean any of it will actually happen. If you believe all of this, then you must be an advocate for Obamacare. How could you not be for a program to give all of our citizens a decent level of healhcare?

Oh, you have reservations about that? Who is going to pay the ultimate bill? How can you doubt what our government is telling us? How can I doubt the 3CDC obectives will be met? They have done a creditable amount up to now. But I contend they have picked off the easy ones up to now. The next ones are going to be more difficult.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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But see, it is all grqphics, photos, and words. Doesn't mean any of it will actually happen.
8 years of progress reports, with verifiable results.

http://www.3cdc.org/who-we-are/annual-progress-reports/

Ya, you're right. All that has happened, and is underway, is really cardboard storefronts with mannequins for patrons.

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