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There's definitely a Southwest "feel" in Southern California. Also called the "Sun Belt" the Southwest also includes southern Nevada & Utah as well as Arizona\ New Mexico and southwest Texas. I think deserts are a characteristic of the Southwest and include the Sonoran desert of Arizona and California. The Mojave desert of California and Nevada. And the Chihuahuan desert of New Mexico\ Arizona and Texas.
Wow. You've obviously never been to Scottsdale or Phoenix for that matter. Livestock? Really? Depending on how you look at it for better or worse I think people in Phoenix exhibit many of the traits that you attributed to Southern Californians. I'm getting kind of tired of this topic but I'm blown away by people that think AZ especially Phoenix is more like Texas than So. California. I find the evidence strongly points to the contrary. I
Erm, I've been to Scottsdale AND Phoenix several times. I'm pretty sure I said "except Scottsdale and Phoenix area" or something similar in that OP somewhere. I know just how flashy people in Phoenix can be.
I love Arizona btw, I would trade my left testicle to be able to live in Flagstaff, or within 50 miles of Powell/Glen Canyon.
People tend to get confused about the difference between geography and culture. You hear a lot of "Florida isnt the south!!" well if you look on a map it sure is, unless the moved it? lol
As for Cali, if you go east of LA and SD it is very much what the stereotypical Southwest is. Northern Cali is a lot more Pacific northwestern.
People tend to get confused about the difference between geography and culture. You hear a lot of "Florida isnt the south!!" well if you look on a map it sure is, unless the moved it? lol
As for Cali, if you go east of LA and SD it is very much what the stereotypical Southwest is. Northern Cali is a lot more Pacific northwestern.
That's what I onserved. Very deserted, sparsely populated, more conservative, no REAL stark difference between Eastern SoCal and AZ. Well, at least from what I've heard.
So the largest section of California's ecology is in fact, Forest.
Of course, no one really recognizes that and instead looks at the 15.3% that IS desert and 25.6% that is the Central Valley (combined 41.9%). Either way, it doesn't come close to being majority desert.
@ OP, I always considered California both. It IS in the Southwestern part of the US geographically, and there IS a cultural continuum of Southwesterness in Southern California. However, the further you go north in California, the less and less that appears. Once you get to the Bay Area, any trace of Southwestern influence is strictly limited to the Missions, and north of that, nothing really.
It's not like being part of the Southwest makes CA mutually exclusive to anything else.
I dont consider California Southwest. I think it should be just WestCoast or Pacific!
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