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I made this argument three years ago in the very long capital of the South thread. There is no capital of the South. There is however a center of the South. What chiatldal just said is basically what I said. Atlanta is the center of the South. Meaning, it has more connections to the majority of the South than Houston, Dallas, or Miami ever could. Historically, Economically, Socially, Atlanta is in the mind of most Southerners though not necessarily all.
Miami's influence does not leave Central Florida.
Houston's influence is South Texas and points east through Southern Louisiana and Southern Mississippi.
Dallas influence is North Texas and points east through Northern Louisiana, Northern Mississippi, Southern and Central Arkansas, Oklahoma, and you can make an argument for Western Tennessee but it's minimal at best.
Atlanta covers all of Georgia, Alabama, overlaps with Houston and Dallas in Mississippi, South Carolina, Western North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and North Florida.
This does not mean Atlanta is more important than the other three. It means Atlanta has more connections in the region than the other cities.
Technically; the south extends past I-35. Areas like Lubbock, Amarillo, Abilene, and more are western south; not Houston and Dallas. Those parts of Texas have much more in common with the south than the west or the southwest. You don't get that western feel until you enter the trans-pecos region.
I don't know how long it will stay that way. Each passing year, the cities become more and more like the West and it's showing in Houston and Dallas as well though very slowly.
I don't know how long it will stay that way. Each passing year, the cities become more and more like the West and it's showing in Houston and Dallas as well though very slowly.
Abilene and Lubbock are two of the most conservative cities in the state of Texas. You have exceptions in that area, but the southern culture dominates still (imo). The only reason Dallas and Houston are changing is due to the large influx of transplants compared to cities in West Texas and the Panhandle.
I don't know how long it will stay that way. Each passing year, the cities become more and more like the West and it's showing in Houston and Dallas as well though very slowly.
see spade, you were kinda on point with your last post, but then you said this ^^^^ lol.....no, but houston and dallas aren't becoming the west any quicker than atlanta's becoming the east coast
I made this argument three years ago in the very long capital of the South thread. There is no capital of the South. There is however a center of the South. What chiatldal just said is basically what I said. Atlanta is the center of the South. Meaning, it has more connections to the majority of the South than Houston, Dallas, or Miami ever could. Historically, Economically, Socially, Atlanta is in the mind of most Southerners though not necessarily all.
Miami's influence does not leave Central Florida.
Houston's influence is South Texas and points east through Southern Louisiana and Southern Mississippi.
Dallas influence is North Texas and points east through Northern Louisiana, Northern Mississippi, Southern and Central Arkansas, Oklahoma, and you can make an argument for Western Tennessee but it's minimal at best.
Atlanta covers all of Georgia, Alabama, overlaps with Houston and Dallas in Mississippi, South Carolina, Western North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and North Florida.
This does not mean Atlanta is more important than the other three. It means Atlanta has more connections in the region than the other cities.
Abilene and Lubbock are two of the most conservative cities in the state of Texas. You have exceptions in that area, but the southern culture dominates still (imo). The only reason Dallas and Houston are changing is due to the large influx of transplants compared to cities in West Texas and the Panhandle.
Just because it's conservative does not mean the Southern culture still dominates. Some of the most conservative cities in the nation reside in the interior West. You also forget that Dallas and Houston is changing because of the large influx of Californians, Washingtonians, and Oregoneons or w/e they call themselves.
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no, but houston and dallas aren't becoming the west any quicker than atlanta's becoming the east coast
Well I didn't mean that Houston and Dallas will become Western cities. But that they could be as controversial in the coming decades like Miami or Washington is now simply because they are on the edge of the South. Atlanta does not have that problem if you must call it that.
Just because it's conservative does not mean the Southern culture still dominates. Some of the most conservative cities in the nation reside in the interior West. You also forget that Dallas and Houston is changing because of the large influx of Californians, Washingtonians, and Oregoneons or w/e they call themselves.
Your right about the conservative thing, but still the south dominates in that area. It felt much more southern than western. I got family in Midland, Odessa, and Big Springs; so I visit quite often.
Your right about the conservative thing, but still the south dominates in that area. It felt much more southern than western. I got family in Midland, Odessa, and Big Springs; so I visit quite often.
I understand but at the same time. There is a major difference from Midland and say Meridian, Mississippi. At the same time, Meridian, Mississippi is essentially the same as Florence, South Carolina, if anyone can see what I'm saying.
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