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Old 11-01-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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To further elaborate the differences between Columbus and Indy (not in anway saying one is better than the other, just that it is innacurate to say they completely alike):
1) Urban area:
Agreed anyone that knows Columbus and Indy knows that Indy has a much more lively downtown retail scene
BUT
Columbus has the more lively, active, urban, and dense urban core area surrounding downtown. Columbus' urban neighborhoods are more dense by nature, brick apartment buildings etc.

Indy has actually been studying Columbus' urban neighborhoods to try and identify ways that Indy can liven up their own.

This is due to the cities' biggest difference: the urban housing stock. Columbus' is almost all brick, less wood framed, more apartment buildings, and long retail districts in each urban neighborhood. Today Columbus' urban districts are now fixed up with lots of retail taking up the dense areas abutting the urban, brick neighborhoods. Many of the core areas have a high LGBT population.

2) Indy is much more conservative. Columbus' city limits, main county, and suburbs are very liberal to moderate. Even if Columbus' city limits included the whole main county, like Indy, the city would still be 100 percent democrat elected council etc. Franklin County and Columbus city limits are both controlled by democrats. For good or bad the city and the suburbs tend to be socially liberal to moderate, left leaning, politically.

3) Columbus has some key economic sectors that Indy doesn't. Not only a larger university/research industry, but Columbus is home to retail headquarters. Limited, Abercrombie, Express, Lane Bryant, La Senza, Victoria's Secret and on are headquartered in Columbus.

They employee fashion designers and that drives a strong, local fashion scene. The Short North is full of boutiques where designers sell their own fashions. Indy doesn't have this.

4) All this combined makes the largest, aggregated difference: Columbus is younger in overall population age, more liberal, even more economically diverse, a much larger LBGT population, young professional etc.

 
Old 11-01-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by streetcreed View Post
To further elaborate the differences between Columbus and Indy (not in anway saying one is better than the other, just that it is innacurate to say they completely alike):
1) Urban area:
Agreed anyone that knows Columbus and Indy knows that Indy has a much more lively downtown retail scene
BUT
Columbus has the more lively, active, urban, and dense urban core area surrounding downtown. Columbus' urban neighborhoods are more dense by nature, brick apartment buildings etc.

Indy has actually been studying Columbus' urban neighborhoods to try and identify ways that Indy can liven up their own.

This is due to the cities' biggest difference: the urban housing stock. Columbus' is almost all brick, less wood framed, more apartment buildings, and long retail districts in each urban neighborhood. Today Columbus' urban districts are now fixed up with lots of retail taking up the dense areas abutting the urban, brick neighborhoods. Many of the core areas have a high LGBT population.

2) Indy is much more conservative. Columbus' city limits, main county, and suburbs are very liberal to moderate. Even if Columbus' city limits included the whole main county, like Indy, the city would still be 100 percent democrat elected council etc. Franklin County and Columbus city limits are both controlled by democrats. For good or bad the city and the suburbs tend to be socially liberal to moderate, left leaning, politically.

3) Columbus has some key economic sectors that Indy doesn't. Not only a larger university/research industry, but Columbus is home to retail headquarters. Limited, Abercrombie, Express, Lane Bryant, La Senza, Victoria's Secret and on are headquartered in Columbus.

They employee fashion designers and that drives a strong, local fashion scene. The Short North is full of boutiques where designers sell their own fashions. Indy doesn't have this.

4) All this combined makes the largest, aggregated difference: Columbus is younger in overall population age, more liberal, even more economically diverse, a much larger LBGT population, young professional etc.
Do you have any photos illustrating the difference between Columbus's and Indianapolis's architecture and urban layout?
 
Old 11-01-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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None of the 3 are really blue collar
 
Old 11-01-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Liberal (I ranked the most liberal to least libral citites)
1. Columbus
2. Cincinnati
3. indy
 
Old 11-01-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by cali3448893 View Post
Liberal (I ranked the most liberal to least libral citites)
1. Columbus
2. Cincinnati
3. indy
Even though Hamilton County, Ohio voted for Bush in 04' and Obama only won by 7% in 08', while Marion County, IN voted for Kerry in 04' and Obama by 28%? I always complain about how conservative Indianapolis is, but Cincinnati is one of those few major cities I've been to that's even worse.
 
Old 11-01-2012, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Originally Posted by streetcreed View Post
To further elaborate the differences between Columbus and Indy (not in anway saying one is better than the other, just that it is innacurate to say they completely alike):
1) Urban area:
Agreed anyone that knows Columbus and Indy knows that Indy has a much more lively downtown retail scene
BUT
Columbus has the more lively, active, urban, and dense urban core area surrounding downtown. Columbus' urban neighborhoods are more dense by nature, brick apartment buildings etc.

Indy has actually been studying Columbus' urban neighborhoods to try and identify ways that Indy can liven up their own.

This is due to the cities' biggest difference: the urban housing stock. Columbus' is almost all brick, less wood framed, more apartment buildings, and long retail districts in each urban neighborhood. Today Columbus' urban districts are now fixed up with lots of retail taking up the dense areas abutting the urban, brick neighborhoods. Many of the core areas have a high LGBT population.

2) Indy is much more conservative. Columbus' city limits, main county, and suburbs are very liberal to moderate. Even if Columbus' city limits included the whole main county, like Indy, the city would still be 100 percent democrat elected council etc. Franklin County and Columbus city limits are both controlled by democrats. For good or bad the city and the suburbs tend to be socially liberal to moderate, left leaning, politically.

3) Columbus has some key economic sectors that Indy doesn't. Not only a larger university/research industry, but Columbus is home to retail headquarters. Limited, Abercrombie, Express, Lane Bryant, La Senza, Victoria's Secret and on are headquartered in Columbus.

They employee fashion designers and that drives a strong, local fashion scene. The Short North is full of boutiques where designers sell their own fashions. Indy doesn't have this.

4) All this combined makes the largest, aggregated difference: Columbus is younger in overall population age, more liberal, even more economically diverse, a much larger LBGT population, young professional etc.
Columbus and Indianapolis both have large areas that look like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2903+...KYVFr1oG2tD_nQ

and this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2803+...JsWFvN84TGBJ6w

I don't know that Indianapolis has really studied Columbus in depth, beyond an article about emulating some aspects of Short North along Indianapolis Mass Ave. Short North is nice. I would question the credibility of someone who thinks there are no homegrown designers in Indianapolis selling their own stuff though.
 
Old 11-01-2012, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Columbus and Indianapolis both have large areas that look like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2903+...KYVFr1oG2tD_nQ

and this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2803+...JsWFvN84TGBJ6w
Typical Midwestern suburban,sprawled cities.
 
Old 11-01-2012, 08:28 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by Toxic Toast View Post
Columbus and Indianapolis both have large areas that look like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2903+...KYVFr1oG2tD_nQ

and this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2803+...JsWFvN84TGBJ6w

I don't know that Indianapolis has really studied Columbus in depth, beyond an article about emulating some aspects of Short North along Indianapolis Mass Ave. Short North is nice. I would question the credibility of someone who thinks there are no homegrown designers in Indianapolis selling their own stuff though.
To be fair, I don't think he was saying there are no homegrown designers altogether so much as it not having the large presence in the industry which can support a large number of designers.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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Typical Midwestern suburban,sprawled cities.
Hate to burst your bubble but so is Cincy. In fact, Columbus has quite a few census tracts that are 1.5 or 2 times as dense as anything in Cincy, and its urbanized area is also significantly denser than Cincy.

I like Cincy better, think its the coolest and most charming city listed, but its a sprawly, mid-sized, midwestern city just like all the rest.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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but its a sprawly, mid-sized, midwestern city just like all the rest.
Nah.
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