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View Poll Results: What city do you think of when you think of Midwest
Indianapolis, IN 6 7.79%
Cleveland, OH 6 7.79%
Kansas City, MO 8 10.39%
Detroit, MI 6 7.79%
Minneapolis, MN 4 5.19%
St. Paul, MN 2 2.60%
St. Louis, MO 10 12.99%
Chicago, IL 35 45.45%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-11-2010, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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It's kind of like Houston in this essence. Way to diverse and way to big to fit the stereotypical image for it's region. Like Fort Worth on the other hand feels 100% purely Texas, and not so much international.

Milwaukee is diverse, but not to the same extent, and Milwaukee stays true to it's Midwestern roots. It's a great city from a regional cultural standpoint.
You couldn't be more wrong. I'll say this again, Minneapolis has grain elevators right in the city, that are visible from downtown. Minneapolis is definitely the more "Midwestern" of the 2 cities. Milwaukee is more diverse than either Minneapolis or St. Paul, and Greater Milwaukee is more diverse than the Twin Cities. The only area they best us in is foreign born population, which is a miniscule % of the total population.

Minneapolis city, Minnesota - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 70.2%
Black or African American 17.4%
American Indian and Alaska Native 1.7% Asian
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 2.8%
Two or more races 3.0%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 9.2%

St. Paul city, Minnesota - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 66.7%
Black or African American 13.5%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.8%
Asian 12.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 2.9%
Two or more races 3.7%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 8.9%

Milwaukee city, Wisconsin - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 46.8%
Black or African American 38.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.8%
Asian 3.2%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.1%
Some other race 8.5%
Two or more races 2.3%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 15.7%

Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI CSA - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 85.3%
Black or African American 5.9%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.6%
Asian 4.6%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 1.6%
Two or more races 2.0%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 4.5%

Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha, WI CSA - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 76.1%
Black or African American 15.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.5%
Asian 2.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 3.9%
Two or more races 1.8%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 8.4%
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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I know Milwaukee is Midwestern, but the I always think of the Twins Cities before Milwaukee because Minnesota is a bigger state therefore more big cities. When I want to go on a weekend trip I don't say hey let's go to Milwaukee! Even though I like Milwaukee. I also should have add Wichita. If you want i'll close this poll, and start a new one?
WRONG.

Wisconsin - Fact Sheet - American FactFinder
Total population 5,598,453

Minnesota - Fact Sheet - American FactFinder
Total population 5,181,962

The Twin Cities, Rochester, and Duluth are the only decent sized cities in all of MN.

WI, OTOH, has Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Appleton, Oshkosh, Fond Du Lac, Sheboygan, Janesville-Beloit, La Crosse, Eau Claire, and Wausau among others, all of whom have populations exceeding 100,000 residents.
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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^ Alright dude, you proved me wrong, I give up for real, and good information on the cities by the way.

Which city do you think is the most Midwestern?
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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I voted for Indianapolis because it seems the most "Classically Midwestern" out of the bunch. My 2nd choice would be Kansas City.
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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KC is not a special case, it's pretty much a giant Omaha with better BBQ joints.
Better than being a suburb of Chicago
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Old 07-11-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Kansas City
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WRONG.

Wisconsin - Fact Sheet - American FactFinder
Total population 5,598,453

Minnesota - Fact Sheet - American FactFinder
Total population 5,181,962

The Twin Cities, Rochester, and Duluth are the only decent sized cities in all of MN.

WI, OTOH, has Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Appleton, Oshkosh, Fond Du Lac, Sheboygan, Janesville-Beloit, La Crosse, Eau Claire, and Wausau among others, all of whom have populations exceeding 100,000 residents.
Minnesota is still a bigger state, and borders Canada. Fail.
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Old 07-11-2010, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Minnesota is still a bigger state, and borders Canada. Fail.
MN has a larger land area than WI, but not a larger population.

Going by your logic, I guess AK must have the biggest cities in the US because it's the biggest state and also borders Canada.

Super mega fail.
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Old 07-11-2010, 08:54 PM
 
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You couldn't be more wrong. I'll say this again, Minneapolis has grain elevators right in the city, that are visible from downtown. Minneapolis is definitely the more "Midwestern" of the 2 cities. Milwaukee is more diverse than either Minneapolis or St. Paul, and Greater Milwaukee is more diverse than the Twin Cities. The only area they best us in is foreign born population, which is a miniscule % of the total population.

Minneapolis city, Minnesota - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 70.2%
Black or African American 17.4%
American Indian and Alaska Native 1.7% Asian
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 2.8%
Two or more races 3.0%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 9.2%

St. Paul city, Minnesota - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 66.7%
Black or African American 13.5%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.8%
Asian 12.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 2.9%
Two or more races 3.7%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 8.9%

Milwaukee city, Wisconsin - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 46.8%
Black or African American 38.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.8%
Asian 3.2%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.1%
Some other race 8.5%
Two or more races 2.3%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 15.7%

Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI CSA - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 85.3%
Black or African American 5.9%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.6%
Asian 4.6%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 1.6%
Two or more races 2.0%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 4.5%

Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha, WI CSA - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
White 76.1%
Black or African American 15.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native 0.5%
Asian 2.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.0%
Some other race 3.9%
Two or more races 1.8%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 8.4%

There's grain elevators in Milwaukee too (Pabst complex. It's the tallest building; there are also grain silos right by the summerfest grounds).

Absolutely nothing wrong with being "midwestern." Both MSP and Milwaukee fit the bill, in different ways. I could easily see how people could say that both cities are exceptions from what the "midwest" is...but the truth is, citizens of both cities are pretty similar in lifestyle.

By the way, the city of St. Paul was 15.4% foreign born; 14.5% of MPLS was foreign born; MKE city was 7.7% foreign born (2000 data).

15.6% of MPLS black population was foreign born as well (over 25% in the MSA). This is on a level matched only by New York, Washington D.C and Boston...
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Old 07-11-2010, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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There's grain elevators in Milwaukee too (Pabst complex. It's the tallest building; there are also grain silos right by the summerfest grounds).
I'll give you the one in the OLD Pabst Brewery, but Pilsbury and Gold Medal have operational flour mills in Minneapolis.

There's huge piles of coal and salt in the Port of Milwaukee (the area near Summerfest), but no grain elevators that I'm aware of.

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Absolutely nothing wrong with being "midwestern." Both MSP and Milwaukee fit the bill, in different ways. I could easily see how people could say that both cities are exceptions from what the "midwest" is...but the truth is, citizens of both cities are pretty similar in lifestyle.
I totally agree, but I'd still have to say that Minneapolis is more "Midwestern" due to its long history of agribusiness.

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By the way, the city of St. Paul was 15.4% foreign born; 14.5% of MPLS was foreign born; MKE city was 7.7% foreign born (2000 data).

15.6% of MPLS black population was foreign born as well (over 25% in the MSA). This is on a level matched only by New York, Washington D.C and Boston...
Minneapolis has a total population of 358,896. If 17.4% of Minneapolis is Black, that translates to 62,448 people.

If 15.6% of those 62,448 people are foreign born, that translates to 9,742 people. 9,742 is a mere 2.7% of the population of Minneapolis. Like I said before, it's a miniscule portion of the total population.
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Old 07-11-2010, 09:34 PM
 
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The problem is that it really depends on your definition of Midwest to start since it seems there are two divergent conepts that appear. Either a more agrarian version or an industrial version which will net different results. Maybe the best example would be a place that has a history in both.
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