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View Poll Results: Which offers better city living?
Buckhead 79 34.35%
Hoboken 151 65.65%
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:47 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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ahah, I can see plenty of people down the street and getting of peach tree does not automatically take you to a suburb. This is cherry picking at its finest.
I just went from there all the way through buckhead and the majority of the entire area is dominated by chains. The same type of amenities I would expect to find in Chicagoland somewhere like Schaumburg or Naperville. Or if I am in the Bay Area, typical of Walnut Creek type stuff. Somebody posted that hotel in another thread and thought I would check it out, then my adventure led on.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:51 AM
 
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Please refrain from comparing ATL to NYC when it comes to hiphop music. Yes, ATL is running the charts right now and thus they are currently wearing the hiphop crown. But, go and read the tiny inscription inside of that crown; it says "Made in New York". Its actually quite depressing to see what ATL has done to hiphop; please, return it back to its owner .


LMAO man oh man-- I cannot beleive it when ATL has the nerve to act superior to NY in hiphop. When did it become cool for Danielson to diss Mr. Miyagi?

Sorry that was a bit of a rant-- I'm just so sick of hearing people in ATL say stuff like this (not necessarily people on CD, you guys actually seem to understand this concept for the most part)

In All honesty can you give some respect to Atlanta and Buckhead
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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In All honesty can you give some respect to Atlanta and Buckhead
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respect for what, I see denser more urban stuff in the suburbs here. it is nothing special.

burbs in other cities are denser in many cases and often dense as your actual main night life area and downtown. they have as much stuff going on as atlanta's most prominent neighborhood.

looks like suburban cities anywhere else, sorry but it is true.

this is chicago suburbs, yes they have downtowns too (gasp)

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this is ny suburbs



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Downtown_White_PLains.gif (broken link)

having a few tall buildings doesn't change anything. this is almost about 25 miles north of manhattan.

they are both much farther out than say hoboken which is a hop skip from manhattan, whatever though.

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Old 10-26-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: GA-TX
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respect for what, I see denser more urban stuff in the suburbs here. it is nothing special.

burbs in other cities are denser in many cases and often dense as your actual main night life area and downtown. they have as much stuff going on as atlanta's most prominent neighborhood.

looks like suburban cities anywhere else, sorry but it is true.

this is chicago suburbs, yes they have downtowns too (gasp)

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this is ny suburbs





having a few tall buildings doesn't change anything. this is almost about 25 miles north of manhattan.

they are both much farther out than say hoboken which is a hop skip from manhattan, whatever though.

New York and Chicago are more then twice as big as Atlanta, how is this even a fair comparison. Plenty of suburbs have downtowns outside those cities and in Atlanta by the way and Buckhead isn't even downtown.
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:36 AM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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where is everybody

5 Auburn Avenue Northeast, Atlanta, GA - Google Maps

? I see a KFC, Taco Bell, Ritz Calrton, Roly Poly. looks like a ghost town.

I am going down peach tree since this is the spot of all the action by posters, I see Ted's Montana Grill, Uncle Julios, Mellow Mushroom, Benihana, Houston's and a Walmart Super center a few roads off.

Further up I see Fado's Irish Pub, Cheesecake Factory, Yoberry, Ruth's Chris, Morton's, Dick's Sporting Good's, Maggiano's Little Italy, Borders, AMC, Teavana, Johnny Rockets, IHOP, Gordon Biersch Brewery, Sports Authority, Edwin Watts, Publix, Outback Steakhouse, Jimmy Johns

WTF is special about that? Every single one of those places is a chain. Yeah there a few non chain but the majority is just chains u will find anywhere usa. Is that supposed to be access? Call me a snob or what you will but I wouldn't be going to those places. That is what I think of when I think bland suburbs. I'm not so sure now looking further that Hoboken even needs Manhattan access next to it to win this. Call me a snob or what you will but just spent about 20 minutes looking around and I am not impressed with the offerings there.

Soon as I get off peach tree all I see is suburban cul de sac's
I welcome anybody to follow peach tree street and look at it themselves.

LOL, it looks like have another Google Maps tourist. Why anyone should take any of the above seriously over the experience of people who actually live in the place is beyond me.
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:54 AM
 
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New York and Chicago are more then twice as big as Atlanta, how is this even a fair comparison. Plenty of suburbs have downtowns outside those cities and in Atlanta by the way and Buckhead isn't even downtown.
Portland has a more walkable and denser downtown than Atlanta, as well as denser for the city itselef, it has more stops and longer track length on its light rail than MARTA. It is almost 3x smaller in CSA. Next.

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LOL, it looks like have another Google Maps tourist. Why anyone should take any of the above seriously over the experience of people who actually live in the place is beyond me.
Is google maps wrong? Is peach tree not the main drag going through Buckhead? What is so funny? Do you think those are comparable amenities to Manhattan? Do you think are even comparable to Hoboken itself. Would I see different stuff if I was there randomly appear by a mirage?

It actually makes a lot of sense to trust what people who have traveled widely think than to people who have never left Atlanta or the South too much. That way they can do a better job of comparing.

Look, I get it Atlanta is urban for Georgia and Urban for the deep south. It is as good as it gets. You share the country with 100 millions of other people though. It is not urban whatsoever by North East Standards. It is not urban by West Coast Standards, and it is not urban by Midwest Standards. It is not urban by United States standards, you know, the country Atlanta happens to reside in. It is not urban by North American standards. It is not by world standards either.

Calling Atlanta urban or mostly urban, whatever you guys want to do to make you think you live in this urban wonderland, hit the jackpot now in Atlanta filled with amenities is what the rest of us call being provincial in mindset.

Atlanta, at least some of the posters on here have something called illusory superiority.

Illusory superiority is a cognitive bias that causes people to overestimate their positive qualities and abilities and to underestimate their negative qualities, relative to others. This is evident in a variety of areas including intelligence, performance on tasks or tests and the possession of desirable characteristics or personality traits.

You have this outlook on Atlanta as the great big place in the sky, but people outside of it in other cities aren't that impressed. What passes as bustling nightlife there and amenities is comparable to many other suburbs in regions of the U.S.

Nobody cares about it that much to be honest, the reason you get so many posters talking about it because you have so many of the posters of Atlanta trying to play it up as something it isn't.

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Old 10-26-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: NC/IL/MI
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Last I checked this guy was not from anywhere near the south.




You know the funny thing is he can actually rap.

Its just a marketing ploy. He basically just exploiting rap for what it is right now, BULL SH** and making alot of money in the process

he can go from that^ to this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IWpMZgbhmQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxE5C...eature=related
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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In All honesty can you give some respect to Atlanta and Buckhead
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Dude, I respect Atlanta and Buckhead for what they are. The only reason I seem like I'm criticizing them all the time is because a select few on here are DETERMINED to make Atlanta out to be something its not.
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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LOL, it looks like have another Google Maps tourist. Why anyone should take any of the above seriously over the experience of people who actually live in the place is beyond me.
Google maps gives a more objective view of a place than homers on CD who desperately want to make ATL out to be something its not--and will cherry pick data/images and twist all types of facts to support their claims.

I really liked Atlanta until a discovered CD, lol--and I bet I'm not alone here. I think it's definitely time for you guys to abort "mission over-hype Atlanta" ASAP.
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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where is everybody

5 Auburn Avenue Northeast, Atlanta, GA - Google Maps

? I see a KFC, Taco Bell, Ritz Calrton, Roly Poly. looks like a ghost town.

I am going down peach tree since this is the spot of all the action by posters, I see Ted's Montana Grill, Uncle Julios, Mellow Mushroom, Benihana, Houston's and a Walmart Super center a few roads off.

Further up I see Fado's Irish Pub, Cheesecake Factory, Yoberry, Ruth's Chris, Morton's, Dick's Sporting Good's, Maggiano's Little Italy, Borders, AMC, Teavana, Johnny Rockets, IHOP, Gordon Biersch Brewery, Sports Authority, Edwin Watts, Publix, Outback Steakhouse, Jimmy Johns

WTF is special about that? Every single one of those places is a chain. Yeah there a few non chain but the majority is just chains u will find anywhere usa. Is that supposed to be access? Call me a snob or what you will but I wouldn't be going to those places. That is what I think of when I think bland suburbs. I'm not so sure now looking further that Hoboken even needs Manhattan access next to it to win this. Call me a snob or what you will but just spent about 20 minutes looking around and I am not impressed with the offerings there.

Soon as I get off peach tree all I see is suburban cul de sac's
I welcome anybody to follow peach tree street and look at it themselves.
It's easy to make any place seem bland when you emphasis the ordinary and ignore everything else. Like how you ignore all the exclusive to Atlanta shops and restaurants and how you ignore the fact that in that Google map picture you reference to not only are there people but there is one of the oldest skyscrapers in the World right there in that picture. The Flat Iron building. Older than it's alter in New York City. And nobody's saying Atlanta is New York or Chicago the comparison is between Buckhead and Hoboken.
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