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View Poll Results: Which offers better city living?
Buckhead 79 34.35%
Hoboken 151 65.65%
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Unread 07-15-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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The money being generated amongst 1.5 million residents both in the bronx and in manhattan is substantial.
Keep telling yourself that. 40% of the Bronx never graduated high school, and only about 15% went to college and got a degree- how much money could possibly be pumped into Manhattan from the Bronx? Manhattan is mainly for white collar types.


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Should we give nj's city's an award of sixth borough, in the middle of Time Square because they are a city that benefits off nycs economy Is that what you want?. New york made Nj not the other way around
What poor sentence structure.
Anyway- Exactly! NYC made North Eastern NJ what it is today, NYers moved here, raised families here, and worked in NYC- My mother, father and their parents are all from NYC- I have no choice but to be so in touch with NYC (like many NJians). I grew up with a bunch of NYC natives and go to NYC 10+ times a year- I only go to NYC at will twice, sometimes once a year. NJ has enough of what matters.

NYC flooded itself into NNJ and killed the original identity NJ already had, now we have to fight for an identity because NYC says so?
Know your place, shut your face.

Middle aged native Newarkers/JC on the other hand are completely different kinds of people in terms of their mannerism. They lived, worked, and played in these cities growing up.
They're actually a more interesting group of people if you ever get the chance to meet them. You come across infinite amounts of NYC natives in NNJ, no body cares what they have to say anymore when they refer to "the city".


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The bronx has nothing on the murder capitols of trenton,newark,camden etc. Theres no where in the bronx as bombed out and depleted as those cities. This is not 1977 anymore
Aren't you the one always dismissing NJ's cities as being so small and insignificant but you're comparing cities with a population of around 80K to the Million plus pop of the Bronx? Is it only logical when you do it?

As for Newark- It's been doing great, It has a historic north ward, an international Airport, a strong business district, a lively nightlife district (Ironbound), and crime in every category has been consistently declining- I much rather live in Newark over the Bronx.
The hate dissing the Bronx, but I can't let the rats and roaches think they're superior.


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The bronx equals rats roaches..... Wth do you think comes up to mind with NJ.LOL- Snooki,guidos,orange human beings, Fist pumps,toxic waste

If you can "take it there" i can take it there too
Snooki - Poughkeepsie NY
Guidos - Originated in NYC (SI) and spread throughout the tri-state area, and now the nation.
.... OOH the IRONY.

I'll deal with the Toxic Waste dumps where ever they're secluded, but you can have your rats and roaches as neighbors. You guys should start charging them rent- You guys would make a bundle.
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Unread 07-15-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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I was going to leave the topic alone. Everybody knows hoboken and the rest of new jersey lacks any kind of identity. The bronx has more identity than nj so do the other boroughs. Its funny because new jerseyans proved it in this thread.


Keep telling yourself that. 40% of the Bronx never graduated high school, and only about 15% went to college and got a degree- how much money could possibly be pumped into Manhattan from the Bronx? Manhattan is mainly for white collar types.

1.5 million people equals money period. The businesses there, the people who buy retail,food etc Money is funneling through that borough. How can we realistically compare a city's economy to that of a borough


NYC flooded itself into NNJ and killed the original identity NJ already had, now we have to fight for an identity because NYC says so?
Know your place, shut your face.

Please. Most people from North new jersey are native new jerseyans. Stop making it more than what it is. Jerseyans themselves know they lack identity its just you and a few others in this thread that are delusional. And "shut my face" lol. Watch ya mouth

Aren't you the one always dismissing NJ's cities as being so small and insignificant but you're comparing cities with a population of around 80K to the Million plus pop of the Bronx? Is it only logical when you do it?

As for Newark- It's been doing great, It has a historic north ward, an international Airport, a strong business district, a lively nightlife district (Ironbound), and crime in every category has been consistently declining- I much rather live in Newark over the Bronx.
The hate dissing the Bronx, but I can't let the rats and roaches think they're superior.

Much more rats and roaches in your cities trust me. Newark,camden and trenton look like the bronx in 77. And only an idiot would rather live in Newark over the bronx. Wasn't one of those city's a muder capitol at one point?



Snooki - Poughkeepsie NY
Guidos - Originated in NYC (SI) and spread throughout the tri-state area, and now the nation.
.... OOH the IRONY.

Well if you new jerseyans are going to leech off of nyc, your going to have to take the good and bad ,sorry. O and guidos exist in NNJ


I'll deal with the Toxic Waste dumps where ever they're secluded, but you can have your rats and roaches as neighbors. You guys should start charging them rent- You guys would make a bundle.

I agree they're new yorkers aswell they should pay. And they happen to live all over the city not just the bronx...O i forgot to get mad since theres no rats or roaches anywhere near my community or my home
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Unread 07-15-2010, 10:02 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Those trees are covering up some of the residential neighborhoods that lie between more commercial Buckhead and Midtown. I already showed lots and lots of photos of the very built up commercial and residential areas with highrises which you seem to be ignoring. In the pictures I previously posted you can see that the built up parts of Buckhead have probably as much building space as Hoboken and Jersey City combined if not more.
I didn't ignore them I replied to them and we conversed about them. I'm trying to be as civil as possible about the comparison but people are being so stubborn.
You're just double checking, I'm sure, but there's no way you're going to convince me that Buckhead is the more urban area. No way.


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parts of Buckhead have probably as much building space as Hoboken and Jersey City combined if not more.
Why are you taking it so far. You're wrong.

Jersey City


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Unread 07-15-2010, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Jersey Boy living in Florida
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Hoboken at the bottom with Manhattan at the top, this picture pretty much describes "city life and access".
http://transadvocate.com/autumnsandeen/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/stevens-tech-in-hoboken.jpg (broken link)
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Unread 07-15-2010, 10:42 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Please. Most people from North new jersey are native new jerseyans. Stop making it more than what it is. Jerseyans themselves know they lack identity its just you and a few others in this thread that are delusional. And "shut my face" lol. Watch ya mouth
They're native NJians now because NYers moved here and reproduced.
Most of north eastern NJ's development was built for NYers. That's how a metro area works, separate state or not.
Immigrants who live in North Eastern NJ are here for NYC too.

I never denied this because I know a metro area is a metro area, but how ignorant can you be to think a state border should act as a force field? NYC's biggest out of city line support is NNJ. Not anywhere else in NYS.

You still havn't said a peep about the NYC-NJ economic ties I mentioned in a previous post. It's huge. NYC did it for a reason, they let NJ leech off them because its what keeps the heart of NYC beating at a better rate.

The shore and the skylands is pure NJ. Yet NYC still manages to "leech" off that to. Why? because of geographic location. As a north easterner, you'd think you'd understand that access is what matters.
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As a ending result. I still love NYC (including the Bronx), and I love NJ's location and access to so much in and out of state- But I'm still moving to upstate NY to get away from the superficial lifestyle so many people live (NYC is the reason). The Tri-state area is all the same when it comes to that crap.
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Unread 07-15-2010, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Jersey Boy living in Florida
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I love Hoboken .
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Unread 07-15-2010, 11:25 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Unread 07-16-2010, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I didn't ignore them I replied to them and we conversed about them. I'm trying to be as civil as possible about the comparison but people are being so stubborn.
You're just double checking, I'm sure, but there's no way you're going to convince me that Buckhead is the more urban area. No way.




Why are you taking it so far. You're wrong.

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Fair opinion but I beg to differ. The question wasn't just which is more urban but which provides better city living. That doesn't necessarily mean more density.

























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Unread 07-16-2010, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Unread 07-16-2010, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Then tell all your Baltimore friends to stay out of Seaside Heights. I was there a 4th of july weekend- I met 4 people from the Baltimore area. The whole mid-atlantc and a good amount of people from New England are all over the shore. The traffic getting there is horrendous. There was too many to count, but I saw a hell of a lot of plates from NY, PA, MD, and CAN... So no, you're just as clueless as KONY..

AC is no slouch either when it comes to tourism.

NEW JERSEY created and perfected the boardwalk scene. NJ tried to have an identity with that, but NYers and the rest of the north east floods it and trashes it every summer (seaside anyway). Seaside Heights is a full out party zone... After the boardwalk scene was a hit, then came Coney Island, Ocean City MD, and so on- Going by KONY's logic, you're all wannabe's (But I'm not saying that)

Atlantic City, Wildwood, Ocean City, Seaside Heights, Point Pleasant, Cape May... That's all NJ. (Same goes for the Skylands- I.e. Del Water Gap)
Newark and Jersey City do the best they can being individuals with NYC so close (trust me, the locals pride being from "Brick City" and "Chill town"), but the Port Authority of NY/NJ has countless ties in that area. NYC and NJ both agreed to have a strong economic connection with each other in the Newark/Jersey City areas. I never knew access was such a crime.
Depending on where you are in the Baltimore area, Its closer to the Jersey shore than MD's shore.
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