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View Poll Results: Which offers better city living?
Buckhead 79 34.20%
Hoboken 152 65.80%
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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Good lord it was a joke. Why does everybody take everything so literal and seriously on here for pete's sake?
Including you? My response was a joke as well...hence the smilie. You might want to follow your own advice and calm down a little.
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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Cars are a huge part of transportation everywhere in the U.S. - even in and around the city that has the best transit in the nation. A higher percentage of people in the New York Metro area drive rather than use public transit, so you really can't say that driving isn't a huge part of transportation.
Plz stop grouping nyc as being the same thing thing as the ny metro in the city and around the city are worlds apart. You paint the wrong picture when you do that. Over half nyers do not own a vehicle, car culture is not a big part of transportation in comparison to other city's
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Two way street:

Hoboken rail terminal history - Google Search

timeline excerpt: 1907 - Hoboken Rail Terminal: Built in 1907 by the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western to serve immigrants crossing by ferry from Ellis Island, where they would continue on to the coal fields of Pennsylvania, or settle in northern New Jersey.


Also, I cannot find where nexis4jersey said there were NO commuters until the 70's. Perhaps not in high demand until then?
He said it in post #602: "The Station was originally built to shuttle ppl into the NJ Gold Coast for the outer edges of the state , commuters to NYC wasn't a high demand intill the 70s."

When presented with proof that there was high demand at the turn of the Century, he back-tracked and laughingly stated there was no commuter demand until the 1930's.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:26 PM
 
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Plz stop grouping nyc as being the same thing thing as the ny metro in the city and around the city are worlds apart. You paint the wrong picture when you do that. Over half nyers do not own a vehicle, car culture is not a big part of transportation in comparison to other city's
In comparison to other cities, maybe not...but when considering that over half of residents own and use private cars, it is a big part of transportation in NYC - and I assume we are talking about the metro area. Most discussions on city-data are in reference to MSA/CSA.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Cars are a huge part of transportation everywhere in the U.S. - even in and around the city that has the best transit in the nation. A higher percentage of people in the New York Metro area drive rather than use public transit, so you really can't say that driving isn't a huge part of transportation.
I live here. Where I live, cars are NOT a popular mode of transportation. It is much, much more INCONVENIENT to have a car than it is to not have a car.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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I live here. Where I live, cars are NOT a popular mode of transportation. It is much, much more INCONVENIENT to have a car than it is to not have a car.
It's like that in parts of all cities that have good public transit, but it certainly isn't true of the entire area.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:51 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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I live here. Where I live, cars are NOT a popular mode of transportation. It is much, much more INCONVENIENT to have a car than it is to not have a car.


Granted, in Hoboken 38.29% of households do not own a car (which is a great number), but that means 61.7% of households do own a car. Whether or not it's convenient to own a car has nothing to do with people owning one and driving them. Unless you think the below video is just full of horseless carriages.


YouTube - Hoboken: Conflict at Hudson and Newark


Hoboken is nice and compact and very walkable, but come on, don't act like no one or a lot of people don't drive there. That's just silly.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: The City
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Granted, in Hoboken 38.29% of households do not own a car (which is a great number), but that means 61.7% of households do own a car. Whether or not it's convenient to own a car has nothing to do with people owning one and driving them. Unless you think the below video is just full of horseless carriages.


YouTube - Hoboken: Conflict at Hudson and Newark


Hoboken is nice and compact and very walkable, but come on, don't act like no one or a lot of people don't drive there. That's just silly.

If you watch the video right around 2:22 the culprit is identified - Starbucks Density
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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In comparison to other cities, maybe not...but when considering that over half of residents own and use private cars, it is a big part of transportation in NYC - and I assume we are talking about the metro area. Most discussions on city-data are in reference to MSA/CSA.
Even if you look at just the City of New York, 50% of all 3 million households do not have a car which is good and unique since no other big city comes close to that. On the other hand, that means the other 1.5 millon households do have a car. That's a whole lot of cars and that's not even counting all the taxis and buses.

But I get what they mean, for most people in the immediate area it is tougher to own a car there from parking to congestion so not having one is better than having one in everyday situations. However, when you're around people who don't own a car they act like they suddenly became rich and have chauffeur. All but a few times, we/I always drive to NYC to see my family. All my cousins/aunts/uncles ever do is bug us to drive them here, drive them there.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:18 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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If you watch the video right around 2:22 the culprit is identified - Starbucks Density
Hahaha! I didn't even notice that. Just proves my theory that Starbucks is the root of all evil.
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