Liberal: Los Angeles VS New York City (cons, safe, state)
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Being Democratic doesn't mean being liberal but is an indicator of overall mindset. I've always thought of NYC as the primal city in America and as the largest city it is also one of the most progressive. But New York isn't as liberal as several other large U.S. cities and there are no other large cities in New York city compared to California. New York City seems more inclined to vote for Republican [mayors], has fairly strict anti-marijuana practices, homebase of people like Bill O'Reilly\ Sean Hannity, culturally a bit more traditional.
Los Angeles is strongly Democratic\ pro-union\ pro-marijuana\ culturally layback-tolerant\ lots of progressive thinkers [ie. television & movie writers\ producers], large traditionally liberal acting\ music industries, ethnically more diverse than NYC, home of Bill Maher\ Chelsea Handler types, more eclectic in architecture and lifestyle. LA is the largest city in the largest liberal state and one reason California is so liberal. Also an interesting aspect of LA is that the white wealthy population is the most liberal; this is not the case in most U.S. cities.
Being Democratic doesn't mean being liberal but is an indicator of overall mindset. I've always thought of NYC as the primal city in America and as the largest city it is also one of the most progressive. But New York isn't as liberal as several other large U.S. cities and there are no other large cities in New York city compared to California. New York City seems more inclined to vote for Republican [mayors], has fairly strict anti-marijuana practices, homebase of people like Bill O'Reilly\ Sean Hannity, culturally a bit more traditional.
Los Angeles is strongly Democratic\ pro-union\ pro-marijuana\ culturally layback-tolerant\ lots of progressive thinkers [ie. television & movie writers\ producers], large traditionally liberal acting\ music industries, ethnically more diverse than NYC, home of Bill Maher\ Chelsea Handler types, more eclectic in architecture and lifestyle. LA is the largest city in the largest liberal state and one reason California is so liberal. Also an interesting aspect of LA is that the white wealthy population is the most liberal; this is not the case in most U.S. cities.
Great point, you broke it down with all the anti-marijuana laws in NYC, and the whole Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity points. I never thought of it that way.
NYC liberals are more accurately modern day libertarianism and more fiscally conservative concerned with social justice, locally and globally, abortion rights, etc than the west coast version (think John Rawls), tend to view the world through a more objective lens. LA and west coast is more concerned with cultural pluralism, gay rights, fringe groups, environmentalism, idealism, alternative lifestyles (think Timothy Leary), tend to view the world through a more subjective lens. They are two different types of "liberal" IMHO and have different, but sometimes combined agendas.
NYC liberals are more accurately modern day libertarianism and more fiscally conservative concerned with social justice, locally and globally, abortion rights, etc than the west coast version (think John Rawls), tend to view the world through a more objective lens. LA and west coast is more concerned with cultural pluralism, gay rights, fringe groups, environmentalism, idealism, alternative lifestyles (think Timothy Leary), tend to view the world through a more subjective lens. They are two different types of "liberal" IMHO and have different, but sometimes combined agendas.
The best post by far. I see Social Liberalism can't be defined by a couple of laws, there are different types of Social Liberalism. I guess most people, and myself included, only thought of 2 different Liberals, as Socially and Fiscally, but there are different types of Social Liberalism also.
NYC liberals are more accurately modern day libertarianism and more fiscally conservative concerned with social justice, locally and globally, abortion rights, etc than the west coast version (think John Rawls), tend to view the world through a more objective lens. LA and west coast is more concerned with cultural pluralism, gay rights, fringe groups, environmentalism, idealism, alternative lifestyles (think Timothy Leary), tend to view the world through a more subjective lens. They are two different types of "liberal" IMHO and have different, but sometimes combined agendas.
NYC liberals are more accurately modern day libertarianism and more fiscally conservative concerned with social justice, locally and globally, abortion rights, etc than the west coast version (think John Rawls), tend to view the world through a more objective lens. LA and west coast is more concerned with cultural pluralism, gay rights, fringe groups, environmentalism, idealism, alternative lifestyles (think Timothy Leary), tend to view the world through a more subjective lens. They are two different types of "liberal" IMHO and have different, but sometimes combined agendas.
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Originally Posted by mas23
L.A. NYC has some conservative parts like staten island
Yeah. I know this isn't about who voted for what (But I thought this would be interesting to share), but I didn't know that any of the boroughs in New York City was Republican over Democrat until a few weeks back when I saw this:
NYC liberals are more accurately modern day libertarianism and more fiscally conservative concerned with social justice, locally and globally, abortion rights, etc than the west coast version (think John Rawls), tend to view the world through a more objective lens. LA and west coast is more concerned with cultural pluralism, gay rights, fringe groups, environmentalism, idealism, alternative lifestyles (think Timothy Leary), tend to view the world through a more subjective lens. They are two different types of "liberal" IMHO and have different, but sometimes combined agendas.
I vote for this... the definitions in bold don't define modern liberalism but by modern standards, LA would be more liberal thanks mainly to Hollywood.
LA by far. New York City has small enclaves that are extremely liberal e.g. Greenwich Village (gay rights etc.) But for the most part, New York is not that liberal. Because of the high concentration of the wealthy in Manhattan, many are socially pretty liberal but extremely fiscally conservative. In the outer boroughs, where there are more immigrants, many are very fiscally liberal but socially conservative (Queens/Brooklyn/Bronx). Open display of homosexual affection would not be safe in the Bronx or Staten Island, even parts of Queens/Brooklyn. And most of the suburbs of New York aren't that liberal as well due to the high concentration of financiers and investment bankers.
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