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Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
Actually, Albany's metro has grown in population to around 1 million people and is becoming a tech center in Upstate NY. Grand Rapids is the most stable economy in Michigan and has been for a while, as it's metro has over 1 million people now. I'd put Rochester ahead of Buffalo, because it has plenty of smaller start ups there and is more of a white collar area than Buffalo. Monroe County(Rochester) actually gained 22,000 people in the 90's and has held pretty mcuh steady through the first decade of the 2000's. Syracuse has the lowest unemployment rate usually out of the NY State metros, but like Rochester, has more smaller companies/start ups and is also in transition.
Oh yes, you are right, ranking in a numerical sense would seem a mess now.
I guess the tier system will apply now. You make good points, just one question though. Wasn't Ann Arbor the best economy in Michigan? Or is it the fastest growing with Grand Rapids being the most stable?
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Originally Posted by west336
Right. Maybe you redefine the tiers as:
1st:
New York
Chicago
Philadelphia
Washington D.C.
Boston
2nd:
Detroit
Minneapolis/St. Paul
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Cleveland
St. Louis
3rd:
Columbus
Cincinnati
Buffalo
Indianapolis
Kansas City
Milwaukee
I'm not New Yorker, but there's something about this that just strikes me as odd.
From a Chicagoans point of view, I do not see Boston on the same tier as Chicago. (not a knock but the truth)
Tier One:
- New York City
Tier Two:
- Chicago
- Los Angeles
- Washington DC
From tier 3 point on, Boston and Philadelphia can join in the fun along with other cities that belong in that tier. Haha.
But I think you were just demonstrating what the poster you quoted had meant? I don't know for sure though.
And PS: I don't want to use up another post in that other density thread so I will respond here for that. I was just joking man, it was an early morning joke lol. Minneapolis doesn't have to be involved in that thread, I was just saying that for fun.
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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No, I know you're not an instigator....I just found the concept of the thread ridiculous and instead of seeing that at the top of the forum list again and again I thought it'd be just as arbitrary to argue about beaches in the Rust Belt
I am still really struggling with minneapolis among DC/Bos/Philly - it is half the size where it is almost exactely the size (population/economic output) of the tier 3s - still seems a stretch to me but heading there
I agree.
My "northern" tier ranking resembles my national tier ranking. Tier 1
New York City
My "northern" tier ranking resembles my national tier ranking. Tier 1
New York City
Tier 2
Washington D.C.
Chicago
Tier 3
Boston
Philadelphia
Tier 4
Detroit
Minneapolis
Pittsburgh
Tier 5
St. Louis
Cleveland
Kansas City
Cincinnati
The Rest
These superficial tiers being posted by some users are largely inaccurate.
Cleveland, as a prime example, would certainly not be ( and shouldn't be ) considered anything less than a 1st tier city on these lists.
Many people are unaware of just how viable a city that Cleveland remains to be.
Yes, the city has experienced it's share of problems, but it is still a major contender amongst the largest and most important of all US cities.
There's still a sizable "FORTUNE 500 presence" in the city, and it is an ever acclaimed healthcare destination with the "world renowned" Cleveland Clinic Foundation & University Hospitals, both of which have developed an important partnership with Case Western Reserve University, resulting in a powerhouse of medical research and biosciences.
Add to this, Cleveland still retains a vast collection of cultural "gems" ( Museums galore, world renowned orchestra ) from it's historic and rich past, a legacy that has been held for Clevelander's for many future generations.
There is also an abundance of urban renewal occurring throughout the city and it's vast suburbs ...
Don't count out a city with a legacy like Cleveland's just yet!
Last edited by JohnDBaumgardner; 07-22-2010 at 11:14 AM..
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My "northern" tier ranking resembles my national tier ranking. Tier 1
New York City
Tier 2
Washington D.C.
Chicago
Tier 3
Boston
Philadelphia
Tier 4
Detroit
Minneapolis
Pittsburgh
Tier 5
St. Louis
Cleveland
Kansas City
Cincinnati
The Rest
You left out LA, for one thing...
In terms of the OP's choices of cities, Minneapolis is really too large for this gruping, especially since it's usually grouped with St. Paul; in terms of tiers, Minn-St. Paul is a Top 20 area, possibly in the Top 15, depending upon who's doing the arguing..
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Originally Posted by MassVt
You left out LA, for one thing...
In terms of the OP's choices of cities, Minneapolis is really too large for this gruping, especially since it's usually grouped with St. Paul; in terms of tiers, Minn-St. Paul is a Top 20 area, possibly in the Top 15, depending upon who's doing the arguing..
My "northern" tier ranking resembles my national tier ranking. Tier 1
New York City
Tier 2
Washington D.C.
Chicago
Tier 3
Boston
Philadelphia
Tier 4
Detroit
Minneapolis
Pittsburgh
Tier 5
St. Louis
Cleveland
Kansas City
Cincinnati
The Rest
And Baltimore?
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