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View Poll Results: Kansas City and St Louis vs Charlotte and Raleigh
Kansas City / St. Louis 75 59.06%
Charlotte / Raleigh 52 40.94%
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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All you have to do spend ten minutes and google and it's evident that Charlotte is in a massive economic freefall that's been going on for some time. The stats are off the charts bad.
You're exaggerating just a bit here. Did the recession hit us especially hard? Absolutely; being the 2nd largest banking center in the country, it was destined to happen. It will take a little while for the unemployment rate to come down, but in the past year or so, we've had a slew of economic development announcements that will help with that and that will also help us to further diversify our local economy. It's still worth noting that we still had a net gain of jobs over the past decade of about 9K.

Even so, Raleigh can take up our slack when pitted against STL and KCMO and the NC metros would still come out on top.

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I spent a weekend in Charlotte and Raleigh very recently trying very hard to give Charlotte another chance to impress me and had a very difficult time just staying busy for a day. There is not much to do.
What all did you do? Did you plan your weekend here or did you just wander around trying to find something to do? Did you just confine yourself to Uptown?
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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charlotte is a small town. i attended a conference there several months ago for work and was asked by two separate people what church i went to. this was not a religious conference, and i'm not even christian. it was a weird southern question to ask a complete stranger. charlotte did not leave me with any kind of "big city" feeling whatsoever. a very strange suburban place.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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charlotte is a small town.
A city of 700K and a metro area of 1.7 million is not a "small town." To suggest such just because you were asked about church is ludicrous.
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Old 07-23-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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A city of 700K and a metro area of 1.7 million is not a "small town." To suggest such just because you were asked about church is ludicrous.
If that is the case than St. Louis is the same way since that question is brought up often as well.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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If I'm correct, given Charlottes 11% unemployment, it still created more jobs than KC and STL. Also worth noting, Wells Fargo bought Wachovia, which was a very controversial decision and has some folks raising eyebrows, which means mergers also lead to umemployment due to eliminating redundant positions. The 16 county "region" is not the official MSA of Charlotte and included severely hit SC county Chester which is close to 15% if I'm correct. It also includes Catawba county which was a furniture producer. That has been hit due to trade agreements.

There is more to the unemployment levels in Charlotte than what you "google." However, if that makes "you" feel better...
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:13 PM
 
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If that is the case than St. Louis is the same way since that question is brought up often as well.
not really. i was in charlotte for two nights, i've been in st. louis for almost two years. i have never been asked the church question in st. louis. i was asked by two different people at two different places in charlotte. just really weird. in st. louis they ask where i went to high school, but that's less backwards than what church i go to. charlotte feels like a suburban city vs. st. louis, which feels like a major city in the classic sense. i am a native philadelphian, for whatever that's worth.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:35 PM
 
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not really. i was in charlotte for two nights, i've been in st. louis for almost two years. i have never been asked the church question in st. louis. i was asked by two different people at two different places in charlotte. just really weird. in st. louis they ask where i went to high school, but that's less backwards than what church i go to. charlotte feels like a suburban city vs. st. louis, which feels like a major city in the classic sense. i am a native philadelphian, for whatever that's worth.
The high school question can be more backwards depending on how its done. It often is a way of determining religion along with things like social class and income. Also St. Louis outside its urban core area is very suburban in a number of locations. Though any of those questions in St. Louis are often done by people over 40 or in a joking matter.

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If I'm correct, given Charlottes 11% unemployment, it still created more jobs than KC and STL. Also worth noting, Wells Fargo bought Wachovia, which was a very controversial decision and has some folks raising eyebrows, which means mergers also lead to umemployment due to eliminating redundant positions. The 16 county "region" is not the official MSA of Charlotte and included severely hit SC county Chester which is close to 15% if I'm correct. It also includes Catawba county which was a furniture producer. That has been hit due to trade agreements.

There is more to the unemployment levels in Charlotte than what you "google." However, if that makes "you" feel better...
Well more jobs have to be created if more workforce aged people arrive. St. Louis is at the point where due to having an older average population is going to start having a shrinking workforce-age population with more people retiring than entering the workforce. This will create worker shortages in a number of job categories over time.
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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in st. louis they ask where i went to high school, but that's less backwards than what church i go to.
How so? If anything, I find the opposite to be true. If you're being asked what high school you went to, then it's automatically assumed that you're a local. That would be characteristic of a place that's not experiencing much growth at all and sounds rather provincial.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:11 PM
 
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automatically assuming one is christian is inherently more southern and country and backwards than assuming someone is local. i'm sorry, charlotte just didn't do it for me.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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automatically assuming one is christian is inherently more southern and country and backwards than assuming someone is local.
It's a pretty good assumption in a state that's overwhelmingly Christian, but I suppose what this is really about is some sort of feigned righteous indignation on your part since you're not Christian.

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i'm sorry, charlotte just didn't do it for me.
And that's fine. But don't attribute that to being asked what church you go to. It was nothing more than a simple question. You act like someone asked you, "So when did you stop beating your wife?" Oh but I guess that would be backwards and country too, because it would assume you're heterosexual.
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