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Old Today, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Philly is typically more violent than Chicago and gangster rap originated in Philly with Schoolly D's PSK. Chicago street gangs have little to no structure these days. LA is more structured with OG's still. I highly doubt Chicago gang members are travelling all the way to Philly to "oversee" operations. Lol. Too many Gangland episodes for you. For the most part Philly has homegrown drug gangs.


Yes--the modern "gangs" most people refer to are a non-factor in Philly. In Philly it is all about where you are from--there are sets and cliques based on street corners and neighborhoods--nobody cares about colors or what you are wearing LOL. And then there is organized crime among different groups---Italian Mafia, Chinese, Russian Mob, Muslim, Vietnamese and Cambodian, Colombian and Dominican. Back in the day Jewish and Irish.


I agree that Philly can certainly have a "lawless" feel to it that I didn't pick up on in Chicago.
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Old Today, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Not in Quebec
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Maybe I'm really sheltered, but are any of these groups really as powerful as so many make them out to be?

They reached their apex in the early and mid 20th century, but the FBI absolutely crushed many of these groups in the late 20th century. It's not like we're living in the days of Whitey Bulger, where one kingpin can point at a city and claim it was his. Most corruption nowadays seems much more like the lone greedy individual trying to squirrel away money for themselves. If anything, the real forces paying off politicians are various corporations and lobbying groups.

This Sopranos scene illustrates the times to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz0uEzRSWXw

"How would corporate feel, for the sake of argument, if a brick went through your window?"
"They have, like 10,000 stores in North America. I don't think they feel anything."

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Old Today, 12:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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Philadelphia was always overshadowed by New York where the Italian Mob was concerned. They fought over Atlantic City, and the gambling, union, drugs, prostitution, etc, and lost when Angelo Bruno was assassinated in his car on Broad Street. Therefore, I'd say Chicago was more of a Mob town than Philly, but both have their sordid past, and to a degree present.

Frank Rizzo was no more a "boss" than any other Philly mayor. His strong personality maybe said otherwise, but I reality he had no more power than the other Democrat Machine mayors.
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Old Today, 12:53 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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Philadelphia was always overshadowed by New York where the Italian Mob was concerned. They fought over Atlantic City, and the gambling, union, drugs, prostitution, etc, and lost when Angelo Bruno was assassinated in his car on Broad Street. Therefore, I'd say Chicago was more of a Mob town than Philly, but both have their sordid past, and to a degree present.

Frank Rizzo was no more a "boss" than any other Philly mayor. His strong personality maybe said otherwise, but I reality he had no more power than the other Democrat Machine mayors.

When... Did the Crime Families of Philadelphia & New York go to war? Angelo Bruno died at the hands of them also? Really?? Care to elaborate? Cause that's news to me.
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