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Once were all HUGE American cities, now they're just meh. Not saying they're AREN'T big and well known cities, they just aren't as relevant as they once were.
If Pittsburgh is just as relevant as a Minneapolis
As a matter of fact Pittsburgh is getting even more attention with how it continues to reinvent itself even in the mist of this Great Recession creating jobs and maintaining a low unemployment rate.
Hell other cities are looking to Pittsburgh on how to turn their economies around...
Plus Pittsburgh is not overshawed by another city in its orbit the way Balitmore is.
If Pittsburgh is just as relevant as a Minneapolis
As a matter of fact Pittsburgh is getting even more attention with how it continues to reinvent itself even in the mist of this Great Recession creating jobs and maintaining a low unemployment rate.
Hell other cities are looking to Pittsburgh on how to turn their economies around...
Plus Pittsburgh is not overshawed by another city in its orbit the way Balitmore is.
Pittsburgh did swell and drop off in importance though, so he is right. In the early 1900's Pittsburgh took off mainly due to its steel industry.
But like many major cities its growth turned sour in the 1950s
What does MPLS have anything to do with Pittsburgh?
Pittsburgh at one point was way more relevant than it is now. (Yeah I know it's on an upswing, and blah blah) but MPLS was never more relevant than it is now. It's a city that's done quite well for itself.
But not sure why you always attack everybody whenever they mention Pittsturdh
What does MPLS have anything to do with Pittsburgh?
Pittsburgh at one point was way more relevant than it is now. (Yeah I know it's on an upswing, and blah blah) but MPLS was never more relevant than it is now. It's a city that's done quite well for itself.
But not sure why you always attack everybody whenever they mention Pittsturdh
A lot of people react that way on CD. It is a weakness in debating skills. when they have nothing constructive to say they attack the poster's city.
And Pittsburg hasn't recovered much either. It has declined in every census since 1950. and like Detroit it is half the size it was in 1950.
Pittsburg had a major diversification effort in the 80's but it has not done much good
If Pittsburgh is just as relevant as a Minneapolis
As a matter of fact Pittsburgh is getting even more attention with how it continues to reinvent itself even in the mist of this Great Recession creating jobs and maintaining a low unemployment rate.
Hell other cities are looking to Pittsburgh on how to turn their economies around...
Plus Pittsburgh is not overshawed by another city in its orbit the way Balitmore is.
Actually Pittsuburgh might be a good example of how an area might change its identity over time from being a narrow-focused economy
Though I remember seeing one reason for lower unemployment compared to many areas is people haven't been moving in for a long time and more often moving out. Many of the highest unemployment areas are places that had a large number of people moving in over the last ten years. I think the high average age plays into this as well, many jobs are not so much created but in many cases replacments for people who retire.
If Pittsburgh is just as relevant as a Minneapolis
As a matter of fact Pittsburgh is getting even more attention with how it continues to reinvent itself even in the mist of this Great Recession creating jobs and maintaining a low unemployment rate.
Hell other cities are looking to Pittsburgh on how to turn their economies around...
Plus Pittsburgh is not overshawed by another city in its orbit the way Balitmore is.
I like Pittsburgh a lot, but I think there are a couple of things that need to be addressed.
Pittsburgh is not nearly as economically strong as the Twin Cities, nor growing at nearly the same rate. The two are similar in being former industrial giants and big, isolated metros, but the Twin Cities are economic giants that punch in way above their demographic weight (which is also much larger than Pittsburgh's). The Twin Cities have also had a greater hand in shaping American pop culture through music both in radioplay and subcultura, and odd little bits like MST3K and the Praire Home Companion.
And while Baltimore may be overshadowed by stronger cities around it, the city also benefits from being closely linked to them which can and does make the city more attractive.
Detroit was originally a port and center of rail - sounds familiar
People went to Detroit en mass because of cheap land and good paying jobs - sounds familiar
Auto led to the need for more oil - led the way for Houston to capitilize
Also Detroit of the cities of it's time lacked in PT options, sound familiar
It also was at the time the city of sprawl - auto focus but today is still one of the most sprawling metros.
I am not saying exact but the more I think and see the more similarities there is, no one there would have believed it then.
I am going to to Nostrodamuses (sp?) quatranes next
"A city made rich by black gold spewing in the air and suburbs as far as the eye can see will lose a football team only to capture the state as the new. It will follow the machine that cuased the need for the balck gold into the next century only to find no light rail but lots of bayou" He was ahead of his time
Your economic skills must be pretty weak
Seriously, you compare Houston and Detroit ? It's a joke right ?
Detroit's greatness came from the auto industry...But Houston biggest employer is the Texas Medical Center (the silicon valley of the bioscience), the oil/gas industry is strong, Houston is one of the best city for green jobs development and the Houston's port is growing fast (ahead LA port before 2020).
Sorry but it's ridiculous...Las Vegas can be compared to Detroit, but not Houston, this city's economy will stay strong because it's very diverse.
A lot of people react that way on CD. It is a weakness in debating skills. when they have nothing constructive to say they attack the poster's city.
And Pittsburg hasn't recovered much either. It has declined in every census since 1950. and like Detroit it is half the size it was in 1950.
Pittsburg had a major diversification effort in the 80's but it has not done much good
It's hard to say if it's done much good or not because we can only guess at how much worse it could have gotten without those efforts. It's a fairly isolated city compared to others and it really built itself on the back of the steel industry. The fact that it is stabilizing while many other cities which were in similar situations are still declining could be taken as a sign of something having been effective. Additionally, the projections of it having a demographic trend towards a lower average age among the population also points to perhaps a fundamental change and turnaround occurring.
Your economic skills must be pretty weak
Seriously, you compare Houston and Detroit ? It's a joke right ?
Detroit's greatness came from the auto industry...But Houston biggest employer is the Texas Medical Center (the silicon valley of the bioscience), the oil/gas industry is strong, Houston is one of the best city for green jobs development and the Houston's port is growing fast (ahead LA port before 2020).
Sorry but it's ridiculous...Las Vegas can be compared to Detroit, but not Houston, this city's economy will stay strong because it's very diverse.
The TMC is nowhere close to being the silicon valley of bioscience. What.
Though I agree that Houston is not headed down the route Detroit went for many reasons (substantial immigration of eager and willing low-wage workers, a concentrated effort to diversify its economy, annexation of inner and middle ring suburbs so that less of a metro/city antagonism and divestment can occur, and progressing in an era of less divisive race politics, etc.).
Looking at the original top-ten list Salem, Massachusetts is interesting as, unlike Marblehead, it was among the top-10 cities from 1790 to 1820. Its population in 1820 is listed as 12,731 while its current population is around 41,000. Although then it was listed as a town, now it's a city.
Of the others on the original top-ten list Charleston, South Carolina stayed in the top-ten until 1840, but now is the 80th largest metro and 255th largest city. Although its population is currently growing.
Baltimore stayed in the top-ten even longer, until 1980, but its metro is also growing now albeit slower than Charleston's. Baltimore is decades older than DC, and I think remained larger than it for a long time, but is now maybe eclipsed by DC and not just in governmental terms.
New Orleans was in the top-10 from 1810 to 1880 but in 2000 it was down to 31st. (I picked 2000 as more recent figures are partly due to Katrina)
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