Best cities for house music (Florida, live, state, better)

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Don't know how old you are but its not a recent "fad" at all.In fact I first learned of the Baltimore House scene from my cousins back in 1994.It is very much as he described.Think of Timberland,Missy Elliot and the styles of music they produce on their albums."Sexy Back" by Justin Timberlake(produced by Timberland) is a direct throw back to the Baltimore sound.

I'm in my early 30's & can honestly say I haven't even heard of Baltimore Club Music until a couple of years ago. It just never made it big here in Texas & I've been listening to Electronic Dance Music since I was 13.

Dallas has always been more of a Funky House blended with Breaks type city.

Just a few of the artists I've seen in Dallas over the years...

Dj Dan
Dave Aude
Cajmere/Green Velvet
Above & Beyond
4 Strings
Paul Oakenfold
George Acosta
D:Fuse (from Austin)
Joey Beltram
Mark Farina
Paul Johnson
Dj Sneak
Bad Boy Bill
Richard "Humpty" Vission
Dj Irene
Baby Anne
Simply Jeff
Rabbit in the Moon
AK1200
Dj Dara
Dj Mia
Dj Magic Mike
Perry Farrell

[detroitlove]

Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin

It never made it up here (Boston) so I'm no expert, but it's generally considered a sub-genre of breakbeat, since it doesn't use the 4/4 beat structure that house music uses. I've also heard it refered to as ghetto tech, ghetto house and booty house.

ghetto tech is a extension of techno music of Detroit and ghetto house is the same to Chicago house music. Baltimore club doesn't really sound like either to me. Both ghetto tech and ghetto house have the basics of techno/house music its just sped up with vulgar lyrics. Baltimore club doesn't really sound electronic like techno or have that bass feeling like house music.

[MrRedd]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Don't know how old you are but its not a recent "fad" at all.In fact I first learned of the Baltimore House scene from my cousins back in 1994.It is very much as he described.Think of Timberland,Missy Elliot and the styles of music they produce on their albums."Sexy Back" by Justin Timberlake(produced by Timberland) is a direct throw back to the Baltimore sound.

Im from Baltimore and i dont like it at all, but the sound is totally different from house music. Baltimore club is very popular in Philly and NJ. If u get the chance listen to "Dj Class , Kanye West - Im The Sh*t Remix" on youtube ( dont know how to post videos). That is Baltimore club music.

[afonega1]

[quote=MrRedd;15628689]Im from Baltimore and i dont like it at all, but the sound is totally different from house music. Baltimore club is very popular in Philly and NJ. If u get the chance listen to "Dj Class , Kanye West - Im The Sh*t Remix" on youtube ( dont know how to post videos). That is Baltimore club music.[/QUOT
Well I agree that Kanye song is totally B-More music.I guess people have different name for it but it sounds like House to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvhhRFlwIU

[Thepastpresentandfuture]

What is house music to be exact? Is it a more jazzy/bluesy type of electronica/trance music?

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by Thepastpresentandfuture

What is house music to be exact? Is it a more jazzy/bluesy type of electronica/trance music?

House Music has lots of Disco influence. It can also be jazzy at times.

The term "House Music" has gotten a broader meaning over the years as it has progressed & now incorporates many other styles of music such as Electro, Hip Hop, Pop, Funk, Jazz, Soul, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music

[Nomad443]

Disclaimer: I don't consider myself an expert on house music since I grew up as a complete "hiphop junkie." But I do have a general love for all music, and have always appreciated the various sounds and scenes in different cities. Plus I'm in my late 30s and have seen various scenes change & evolve over time.

The cities that I remember having the strongest reputations for House Music were:--(I'm focusing on the 80s thru early 90s when House Music was truly large & "blowing up")

Chicago, Detroit, Jersey(Newark), & Baltimore (New York too, but with qualifications).

Chicago was the originator & birthplace, and then the sound spread to Detroit where they developed their own local style.

Out of the east coast cities, Jersey (Newark) and Baltimore had the biggest reputations for their House Music scenes. Both of those cities had iconic/legendary clubs that were known for House Music. In Jersey it was club "Zanzibar" (Newark), and in Bmore it was club "Odell's." People from other cities who were really into house music used to travel to both of those cities to party.

Of course, New York had a vibrant House scene, but it wasn't the "dominant" sound in that city. Hip Hop was the dominant "grass roots" genre among the masses throughout NY. Dance-hall reggae also had a strong underground scene in the West Indian communities--especially in Brooklyn. NY is a huge city and had various scenes, but Hip Hop was dominant.

There was also a House scene in Philly, but it was never the "dominant" music there. Philly had and was known for its own, local, underground hip hop & DJ scene that dominated at their local clubs & block parties.

As far as DC, they have always been dominated by "Go-Go"--PERIOD. For as long as I can remember.

But in Baltimore, their "club music" definitely evolved & grew out of their own take on "House Music." When I first came to Baltimore (in '94) Odell's was already closed, but "the Paradox" & "Hammerjacks" were the clubs where Baltimore's local sound was still being developed--and there was still a clear "House" influence to the sound. But it also was gradually being influenced by hip hop where they began to add "break-beats." Luke and the Miami Bass sound also had a slight influence. The newer Baltimore club sound has evolved and doesn't have as strong of a "House Music" sound to it, but House was definitely the true origin of it.

As far as the South--most of the southern cities during that time in the late 80s & '90s (including Atlanta) were dominated by the Miami Bass/"Booty Shake" sound. Texas (Houston area) was the first southern state to eventually developed their own local version of "hip hop" that departed from the Miami Bass sound, and that was with the "Ghetto Boyz" and others artists.

[john_starks]

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[detroitlove]

Originally Posted by Nomad443

Disclaimer: I don't consider myself an expert on house music since I grew up as a complete "hiphop junkie." But I do have a general love for all music, and have always appreciated the various sounds and scenes in different cities. Plus I'm in my late 30s and have seen various scenes change & evolve over time.

The cities that I remember having the strongest reputations for House Music were:--(I'm focusing on the 80s thru early 90s when House Music was truly large & "blowing up")

Chicago, Detroit, Jersey(Newark), & Baltimore (New York too, but with qualifications).

Chicago was the originator & birthplace, and then the sound spread to Detroit where they developed their own local style.

Out of the east coast cities, Jersey (Newark) and Baltimore had the biggest reputations for their House Music scenes. Both of those cities had iconic/legendary clubs that were known for House Music. In Jersey it was club "Zanzibar" (Newark), and in Bmore it was club "Odell's." People from other cities who were really into house music used to travel to both of those cities to party.

Of course, New York had a vibrant House scene, but it wasn't the "dominant" sound in that city. Hip Hop was the dominant "grass roots" genre among the masses throughout NY. Dance-hall reggae also had a strong underground scene in the West Indian communities--especially in Brooklyn. NY is a huge city and had various scenes, but Hip Hop was dominant.

There was also a House scene in Philly, but it was never the "dominant" music there. Philly had and was known for its own, local, underground hip hop & DJ scene that dominated at their local clubs & block parties.

As far as DC, they have always been dominated by "Go-Go"--PERIOD. For as long as I can remember.

But in Baltimore, their "club music" definitely evolved & grew out of their own take on "House Music." When I first came to Baltimore (in '94) Odell's was already closed, but "the Paradox" & "Hammerjacks" were the clubs where Baltimore's local sound was still being developed--and there was still a clear "House" influence to the sound. But it also was gradually being influenced by hip hop where they began to add "break-beats." Luke and the Miami Bass sound also had a slight influence. The newer Baltimore club sound has evolved and doesn't have as strong of a "House Music" sound to it, but House was definitely the true origin of it.

As far as the South--most of the southern cities during that time in the late 80s & '90s (including Atlanta) were dominated by the Miami Bass/"Booty Shake" sound. Texas (Houston area) was the first southern state to eventually developed their own local version of "hip hop" that departed from the Miami Bass sound, and that was with the "Ghetto Boyz" and others artists.

I don't really see Techno as house or a part of house music. It is similar like plenty of other things between Detroit and Chicago because we share the same region. But the basic sound in Techno (electronic) is very different IMO to that of house music (bass). They are similar but different also and house may had some influence on Techno but I don't see it as evolving from house. Although I don't think of Baltimore Club as house music it to me sounds more like house than techno

[Nomad443]

Originally Posted by detroitlove

I don't really see Techno as house or a part of house music. It is similar like plenty of other things between Detroit and Chicago because we share the same region. But the basic sound in Techno (electronic) is very different IMO to that of house music (bass). They are similar but different also and house may had some influence on Techno but I don't see it as evolving from house. Although I don't think of Baltimore Club as house music it to me sounds more like house than techno

For the Detroit scene, you would know better than me. I was never a true House Music fanatic, but my girl and a couple of my friends were. Back then, I remember a group out of Detroit that had a song called "Big Fun" and another song--I can't remember the name. They used to play them alot when I was clubbing while in the military. Both of the songs had a strong House feel, although they did have a more synthesized type sound than the sound out of Chicago. My girl back then was from Chi, but she would say that those two songs out of Detroit weren't "real" House Music. I didn't know whether they were or not, but it all sounded similar enough to me. I assumed that that particular group's sound was typical for the Detroit scene, and I'm not familiar with any other songs out of Detroit.

As far as Bmore --there are a lot of "old heads" in Baltimore who are straight up "House Heads" and deep into what's considered traditonal "House Music." They are mostly in their late 30s, 40s, and older. Bmore had a strong House scene back in the day. Remember, "the Basement Boys" who produced Crystal Waters and other House acts were out of Baltimore. Baltimore also had a house singer named Ultra Nate' who was a popular House artist back then. I saw her on a local news show recently, and she said she lives and performs in Europe now--she is real big over there.

But the Baltimore sound gradually evolved into their own "club music." I agree that most of the current Baltimore club music has transformed into a very different sound than the traditional "House Music" sound of the 80s & early 90s. This was already happening when I got here in '94. By that time, they had songs where they were basically shouting out neighborhoods and alot of explicit joints. But there was still an apparent house element in many of the songs also. It got further away over time.