Cities with the worst slums (crimes, to live, dangerous)

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

New Orleans would have made the list but hopefully out of the Katrina tragedy they can build a new city better than the one before.

New Orleans will never be the same. The cost to rebuild to current code is way beyond the reach of the landowners' ability to rebuild there. It will take decades for the city to regain its pre-Katrina population, if ever.

[Tom Lennox 70]

Hustla....all the news about NY being cleaned up, is that an illusion? Those pictures are shocking, even worse than Baltimore or PHilly or even New Orleans and Los Angeles which wrote the book on gang warfare and illegal immigration.

NYC is a huge city so is the lower crime just in Manhattan driving down the stats? Is the Bronx or Harlem or Queens still as dangerous if not more so than Baltimore or Philadelphia?

The worst city I've been through is Philadelphia. Also every movie I've ever seen set in Boston shows it as a very ghetto city (esp The Departed) as opposed to the rich old-money image that Massachusetts usually conjures.

[Hustla718]

Originally Posted by FutureCop

I never said I wanted to live in a ghetto. Just a city with a better chance of not getting shot as a Police Officer. And I've always loved LA and think of it as my 2nd home.

Wrong choice. Although in NYC a lot of cops do get shot or shoot some on almost a weekly basis (Police shooting last night), L.A. has areas just as bad. It's all chance and how you use your tactics. It just may not be your day some time.

However I would choose LAPD over NYPD. It's a much better department. Take it from me, I work NYPD.

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

Hustla....all the news about NY being cleaned up, is that an illusion? Those pictures are shocking, even worse than Baltimore or PHilly or even New Orleans and Los Angeles which wrote the book on gang warfare and illegal immigration.

NYC is a huge city so is the lower crime just in Manhattan driving down the stats? Is the Bronx or Harlem or Queens still as dangerous if not more so than Baltimore or Philadelphia?

The worst city I've been through is Philadelphia. Also every movie I've ever seen set in Boston shows it as a very ghetto city (esp The Departed) as opposed to the rich old-money image that Massachusetts usually conjures.

Good reading:

The Trouble with Compstat

NYC is lucky enough to have a lot of lower crime areas to offset the bad. Another way to drop the stats is heavy fudgeing as the above link will explain to you. The bad areas in NYC are just as bad as the bad areas anywhere. Why wouldn't they be? You know how the media is, tied in with real estate and the current administration. Crime statistics honestly are meaningless. The Bronx for example is the poorest urban county in the USA. With povety comes crime, of course there is a serious crime problem in the Bronx. People often forget around 600 people are killed in NYC. Obviously something is very wrong in certain areas.

Overall I would say those cities (Philly/Bmore/NewOrleans) are in much more of a hole then we are though. Like I said, at least NYC has many decent areas to offset the bad. Those areas have very few decent areas.

Housing wise, NYC's low income areas have TERRIBLE housing. It's old, decayed, just horrible to live in. Multifamily tenements. NYC also has many housing projects. The most in the country. Some areas have non stop housing projects for the lengh of their neighborhoods. The largest concentration in the world being in East Harlem. Brownsville, Mott Haven, Soundview, Morrisania, Soundview, the LES, Coney Island, Far Rock, ect, also have a large number.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by j33

Spade - most people I know who live on the southside feel the same way. I've driven through parts of the west-side that look like they'd fit in with some of the footage I've seen of Baghdad.

I mentioned that because everyone always talks about the Southside as having the most crime and etc. etc. I find the southside more clean and more kept up than the Westside. That's not to say the southside doesn't have it's problems because it does.

[ApartmentNomad]

Seriously, some of these photos from New York don't look bad at all compared to what I've see while riding through North Philly. Take the 23 bus north from Market Street in Philadelphia if you want a quick education about how bad things are in some parts of this city. There are some stops where most buildings in sight have boarded up windows, and these are homes that people are living in.

[PPG]

Since no one has mentioned it, Pittsburgh has a lot of run-down areas.
A beat up block in Garfield.

[PPG]

[PPG]

Formosa way in Homewood.

[Hustla718]

Originally Posted by ApartmentNomad

Seriously, some of these photos from New York don't look bad at all compared to what I've see while riding through North Philly. Take the 23 bus north from Market Street in Philadelphia if you want a quick education about how bad things are in some parts of this city. There are some stops where most buildings in sight have boarded up windows, and these are homes that people are living in.

Yes Philly has a lot of borded up properties. NYC has a lot of inhabitable vacant apartments in buildings of poor neighborhoods, but less completely vacant buildings then in the past. A single unit in a tenement is the same as a rowhouse in Philly. Anyway Philly is in a deeper hole. Probably the worst city in terms of urban decay right now.

Some more shots, Central Harlem NYC:

[Hustla718]

Ghetto Philly: