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Old 09-14-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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I prefer four seasons. And a moderate four seasons would be perfect! I guess my dream climate would be something like this:
JAN: 50/36
FEB: 55/41
MAR: 62/46
APR: 67/51
MAY: 72/54
JUN: 77/59
JUL: 80/60
AUG: 75/57
SEP: 70/52
OCT: 65/49
NOV: 60/44
DEC: 55/41

OR

JAN: 66/52
FEB: 68/54
MAR: 70/54
APR: 72/56
MAY: 74/58
JUN: 76/60
JUL: 78/62
AUG: 76/60
SEP: 74/58
OCT: 72/56
NOV: 70/54
DEC: 68/54
Your first list is similar to Seattle or Portland. The second is almost identical to places like coastal Los Angeles or San Diego.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:30 PM
 
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When you write "East Coast" having 7 months of warm weather you are of-course referring to the Southeast. Since the Northeast is only warm for maybe 4-5 months and then very cold the rest of the year. Central coastal California is, as you point out, cool year round for the most part but not cloudy except during summer mornings. Otherwise it is very sunny and much milder than any East Coast region north of Florida during winter. Even Jacksonville, Florida, New Orleans and Houston are cooler during winter than cities like Los Angeles yet much further south. That's why flowers grow all year and trees and lawns are green all winter in California compared to most of the nation.
The above can be a little misleading:

Take New Orleans, LA and Long Beach, CA (both coastal cities) for example. Here are the mean monthly temperatures (ave of highs/lows) for each month in both cities (monthly averages/New Orleans/Long Beach /Max temp/1970 – 2010):

New Orleans, LA National Weather Service Climate
Jan – 52
Feb – 55
Mar – 62
Apr - 68
May - 75
Jun - 80
Jul - 82
Aug - 82
Sep - 79
Oct - 70
Nov - 61
Dec - 55
Year 68 F

Long Beach, CA National Weather Service - NWS Los Angeles/Oxnard
Jan – 56
Feb – 58
Mar – 59
Apr - 62
May - 65
Jun - 69
Jul - 73
Aug - 75
Sep - 73
Oct - 68
Nov - 61
Dec – 56
Year 64 F


The mean temperature New Orleans is warmer than Long Beach, CA 8 out of 12 months (March through October)…and the same in November (61 F). In the three winter months…Long Beach is only 1 F warmer than New Orleans in December…and only 3 to 4 F warmer in Jan/Feb. Yet, from April through September…monthly mean temps in New Orleans are from 6 to 11 F warmer than Long Beach. Summers are cool in coastal CA compared to the Gulf and south Atlantic states. The average annual temp in New Orleans is 4 F warmer than in Long Beach...so New Orleans is a warmer climate than Long Beach, CA. Nowhere in coastal CA ...not LA/San Diego/San Fran...etc is warmer annualy than a city like New Orleans, Houston, Charleston/Myrtle Beach, SC, Corpus Christi, Savnannh, GA, Mobile...etc.

Also, the central California coast is not much more mild than any East Coast region north of Florida in winter…its not even as warm as several areas in the Gulf/South Atlantic states in winter - lol: Take the daily highs in winter in Big Sur, CA and Savannah, GA for example (monthly averages/Savannah-Big Sur/Max temp/1970 – 2010)

Savannah, GA National Weather Service Climate
Dec – 62 F
Jan – 60 F
Feb – 64 F
Mar – 71 F

Big Sur, CA National Weather Service - NWS San Francisco/Monterey Bay Area
Dec – 61F
Jan – 60 F
Feb – 61 F
Mar – 64 F

Not only is a region like Savannah warmer in winter than the central California coast…but by early May, when the high temps are in the low/mid 80’s along the lower East Coast/Gulf Coast, the sun is blazing, and the Atlantic is warming swiftly…highs temps struggle to get into the upper 60's/low 70's in places like Big Sur, CA, along with the overcast skies and cold ocean waters. From June through September…coastal Central California is downright cold compared to the Gulf/East Coast. Of course don’t forget that the Pacific is freezing compared to the Atlantic in summer. If you swim in the ocean when it's less than 75 F on the East Coast they think your nuts -lol. The only real swimable ocean area of CA is below LA for the most part...and even there it's often mighty cool.

As far as the upper East Coast...even the upper East Coast has a warmer summer than coastal California: May, June, July, and Aug are WARMER in Washington DC for example than in Long Beach, CA. The high is Washington Dc is WARMER than the daily high in San Francisco, CA or Big Sur, CA for half the year.

Finally, I lived in coastal central CA...it's is a bit of a stretch to say only mornings are overcast in late spring/early summer. I can remember many a foggy, cool, overcast 64 F days in early June...while people on the East Coast/Gulf Coast were enjoying sunshine and temps in the 80's.

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Old 09-14-2010, 10:37 PM
 
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I love hot weather both dry and humid.I love it when it's in the 90's and triple digits.I hate cold weather.Some examples of my prefered climate cities would be Yuma, Arizona,Abilene, Texas,San Antonio,Texas,Midland/Odessa, Texas and Houston, Texas
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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The above can be a little misleading:

Take New Orleans, LA and Long Beach, CA (both coastal cities) for example. Here are the mean monthly temperatures (ave of highs/lows) for each month in both cities (monthly averages/New Orleans/Long Beach /Max temp/1970 – 2010):

New Orleans, LA National Weather Service Climate
Jan – 52
Feb – 55
Mar – 62
Apr - 68
May - 75
Jun - 80
Jul - 82
Aug - 82
Sep - 79
Oct - 70
Nov - 61
Dec - 55
Year 68 F

Long Beach, CA National Weather Service - NWS Los Angeles/Oxnard
Jan – 56
Feb – 58
Mar – 59
Apr - 62
May - 65
Jun - 69
Jul - 73
Aug - 75
Sep - 73
Oct - 68
Nov - 61
Dec – 56
Year 64 F


The mean temperature New Orleans is warmer than Long Beach, CA 8 out of 12 months (March through October)…and the same in November (61 F). In the three winter months…Long Beach is only 1 F warmer than New Orleans in December…and only 3 to 4 F warmer in Jan/Feb. Yet, from April through September…monthly mean temps in New Orleans are from 6 to 11 F warmer than Long Beach. Summers are cool in coastal CA compared to the Gulf and south Atlantic states. The average annual temp in New Orleans is 4 F warmer than in Long Beach...so New Orleans is a warmer climate than Long Beach, CA. Nowhere in coastal CA ...not LA/San Diego/San Fran...etc is warmer annualy than a city like New Orleans, Houston, Charleston/Myrtle Beach, SC, Corpus Christi, Savnannh, GA, Mobile...etc.

Also, the central California coast is not much more mild than any East Coast region north of Florida in winter…its not even as warm as several areas in the Gulf/South Atlantic states in winter - lol: Take the daily highs in winter in Big Sur, CA and Savannah, GA for example (monthly averages/Savannah-Big Sur/Max temp/1970 – 2010)

Savannah, GA National Weather Service Climate
Dec – 62 F
Jan – 60 F
Feb – 64 F
Mar – 71 F

Big Sur, CA National Weather Service - NWS San Francisco/Monterey Bay Area
Dec – 61F
Jan – 60 F
Feb – 61 F
Mar – 64 F

Not only is a region like Savannah warmer in winter than the central California coast…but by early May, when the high temps are in the low/mid 80’s along the lower East Coast/Gulf Coast, the sun is blazing, and the Atlantic is warming swiftly…highs temps struggle to get into the upper 60's/low 70's in places like Big Sur, CA, along with the overcast skies and cold ocean waters. From June through September…coastal Central California is downright cold compared to the Gulf/East Coast. Of course don’t forget that the Pacific is freezing compared to the Atlantic in summer. If you swim in the ocean when it's less than 75 F on the East Coast they think your nuts -lol. The only real swimable ocean area of CA is below LA for the most part...and even there it's often mighty cool.

As far as the upper East Coast...even the upper East Coast has a warmer summer than coastal California: May, June, July, and Aug are WARMER in Washington DC for example than in Long Beach, CA. The high is Washington Dc is WARMER than the daily high in San Francisco, CA or Big Sur, CA for half the year.

Finally, I lived in coastal central CA...it's is a bit of a stretch to say only mornings are overcast in late spring/early summer. I can remember many a foggy, cool, overcast 64 F days in early June...while people on the East Coast/Gulf Coast were enjoying sunshine and temps in the 80's.

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Los Angeles is at the same latitude as Dallas and Atlanta:

Dallas: Average maximum: Winter: 55-61F\ Summer: 92-96F
Monthly Averages for Dallas, TX - weather.com

Atlanta: Winter: 52-57F \ Summer: 87-89F
Monthly Averages for Dallas, TX - weather.com

Houston: Winter: 63-67\ Summer: 91-94F
Monthly Averages for Houston, TX - weather.com

New Orleans: Winter: 62-65F\ Summer: 89-91F
Monthly Averages for New Orleans, LA - weather.com

Jacksonville: Winter: 64-67F\ Summer: 89-90F
Monthly Averages for Jacksonville, FL - weather.com

Los Angeles: Winter: 68-70F\ Summer: 80-85F
Monthly Averages for Los Angeles, CA - weather.com

Coastal California does not experience frost and remains well above 60F during winter yet is at the same latitude as New York to San Antonio Texas. Mild winters and cool summers mean a very short thermometer and year-round comfort.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:33 PM
 
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I couldn't take hot weather all year. Give me a long, frigid winter with lots of snow, and a short, sunny summer.
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:21 AM
 
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Los Angeles is at the same latitude as Dallas and Atlanta:

Dallas: Average maximum: Winter: 55-61F\ Summer: 92-96F
Monthly Averages for Dallas, TX - weather.com

Atlanta: Winter: 52-57F \ Summer: 87-89F
Monthly Averages for Dallas, TX - weather.com

Houston: Winter: 63-67\ Summer: 91-94F
Monthly Averages for Houston, TX - weather.com

New Orleans: Winter: 62-65F\ Summer: 89-91F
Monthly Averages for New Orleans, LA - weather.com

Jacksonville: Winter: 64-67F\ Summer: 89-90F
Monthly Averages for Jacksonville, FL - weather.com

Los Angeles: Winter: 68-70F\ Summer: 80-85F
Monthly Averages for Los Angeles, CA - weather.com

Coastal California does not experience frost and remains well above 60F during winter yet is at the same latitude as New York to San Antonio Texas. Mild winters and cool summers mean a very short thermometer and year-round comfort.

Its a bit unfair to use a city like Los Angeles and Atlanta…since Atlanta is located in highlands and LA is at sea level. The fact remains that according to the National Weather Service data (above) Long Beach, CA is only 1 F warmer than New Orleans in December...and 3/4 F warmer in Jan/Feb. The bulk of the year (the other 9 and half months)...it is warmer, or much warmer in New Orleans than in Long Beach (or LA, for that matter).

My point was… it is warmer (or much warmer) for most of the year in cities on the Gulf /lower East Coast (cities like Corpus Christi, Houston, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Mobile, Savannah, GA, Charleston/Myrtle Beach, SC, Wilmington, NC, Virginia Beach, VA…etc)…than it is anywhere on the California coast. It is a scientifically undisputable fact. Even the coastal middle East Coast (Washington to NYC/Connecticut)…has a warmer summer…though shorter…than coastal southern California.

In winter…cities like San Francisco, Big Sur, Santa Barbara…etc are cooler, with lower daily highs… than cities like Corpus Christi, Houston, Galveston, New Orleans, Mobile, Savannah, Charleston, SC…etc. Not only are daily highs warmer in the Gulf and South Atlantic states compared to most of CA north of LA…but the more importnat fact - coastal CA(including LA/San Diego) gets its doors blown off temperature wise 8 months of the year – when compared to the Gulf/lower East Coast. Summer anywhere in coastal CA is between 8 and 12 F colder than summer on the Gulf/much of East Coast. The warmth for much of the year in Gulf/East Coast resort cities (i.e New Orleans, Galveston, Gulf Shores, the Georgia Sea Islands, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Virginia Beach…etc)...is far greater than the coolish climate of coastal California. People don’t wear jackets on the Gulf/East Coast in summer during the day – lol.

Annually…the Gulf/and lower East Coast is a warmer climate than the West Coast. This map shows the average annual mean temps …the warmest coastal area on the USA mainland is the Gulf/South Atlantic states without question. In the 2 zone, you can see that the darker redish color (annual temps 65 -70 F) is along the Gulf and South Atlantic coast…it is nowhere in coastal CA. In fact…annually…even the states up the East Coast as far as Maryland/Delaware/New Jersey… (yellow – 55 -60 F annual mean temps) …are just as warm as coastal California north of Los Angeles. Annually…Washington DC is warmer than San Francisco.




The climatic reality is… that compared to the Gulf and the lower East Coast…coastal California has four months when the monthly mean temps are a few degrees warmer/cooler than the Gulf/lower East Coast (excluding Florida of course). However, the rest of the year (7/8 months)...coastal California is cold compared to the Gulf/much of the East Coast. I don’t even want to get into how cold the Pacific is compared to the Gulf and Atlantic – lol.

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Old 09-15-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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Its a bit unfair to use a city like Los Angeles and Atlanta…since Atlanta is located in highlands and LA is at sea level. The fact remains that according to the National Weather Service data (above) Long Beach, CA is only 1 F warmer than New Orleans in December...and 3/4 F warmer in Jan/Feb. The bulk of the year (the other 9 and half months)...it is warmer, or much warmer in New Orleans than in Long Beach (or LA, for that matter).

My point was… it is warmer (or much warmer) for most of the year in cities on the Gulf /lower East Coast (cities like Corpus Christi, Houston, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Mobile, Savannah, GA, Charleston/Myrtle Beach, SC, Wilmington, NC, Virginia Beach, VA…etc)…than it is anywhere on the California coast. It is a scientifically undisputable fact. Even the coastal middle East Coast (Washington to NYC/Connecticut)…has a warmer summer…though shorter…than coastal southern California.

In winter…cities like San Francisco, Big Sur, Santa Barbara…etc are cooler, with lower daily highs… than cities like Corpus Christi, Houston, Galveston, New Orleans, Mobile, Savannah, Charleston, SC…etc. Not only are daily highs warmer in the Gulf and South Atlantic states compared to most of CA north of LA…but the more importnat fact - coastal CA(including LA/San Diego) gets its doors blown off temperature wise 8 months of the year – when compared to the Gulf/lower East Coast. Summer anywhere in coastal CA is between 8 and 12 F colder than summer on the Gulf/much of East Coast. The warmth for much of the year in Gulf/East Coast resort cities (i.e New Orleans, Galveston, Gulf Shores, the Georgia Sea Islands, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Virginia Beach…etc)...is far greater than the coolish climate of coastal California. People don’t wear jackets on the Gulf/East Coast in summer during the day – lol.

Annually…the Gulf/and lower East Coast is a warmer climate than the West Coast. This map shows the average annual mean temps …the warmest coastal area on the USA mainland is the Gulf/South Atlantic states without question. In the 2 zone, you can see that the darker redish color (annual temps 65 -70 F) is along the Gulf and South Atlantic coast…it is nowhere in coastal CA. In fact…annually…even the states up the East Coast as far as Maryland/Delaware/New Jersey… (yellow – 55 -60 F annual mean temps) …are just as warm as coastal California north of Los Angeles. Annually…Washington DC is warmer than San Francisco.




The climatic reality is… that compared to the Gulf and the lower East Coast…coastal California has four months when the monthly mean temps are a few degrees warmer/cooler than the Gulf/lower East Coast (excluding Florida of course). However, the rest of the year (7/8 months)...coastal California is cold compared to the Gulf/much of the East Coast. I don’t even want to get into how cold the Pacific is compared to the Gulf and Atlantic – lol.

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Thanks for putting together all the data; I appreciate posters who go to the trouble of gathering information And what you present is, of-course, correct. But one thing that is quite ironic is that Southern states including northern Florida are actually colder than Southern California during winter and why certain plants\ trees can not survive the Southern winter. Much further south than California yet colder and more likely to experience frost and even snow; look at all the freezing temperatures & snowstorms Texas experiences right down to the Gulf Coast. That kind of cold is unheard of in coastal California even though California is well north of the deep South. So certain crops and palm trees, etc. do very well in California but would die in the South. This has to do with the Midwest\ Plains states being wide open to Arctic air masses that the Rocky mountains and the Sierra Nevada mountains block from entering California. Texas regularly gets northern winds right out of Canada each winter and sub-freezing temperatures; same with New Orleans and places like Jacksonville Florida.

It can get cold in California but the likelihood of frost is so much less than Southern states. I read recently that the last time freezing temperatures occurred in Los Angeles was over 60 yrs ago. Even Miami has been colder during that time and it is practically in the subtropics. The Pacific ocean and the high mountains modify the cold air and why southern California is one of the warmest states in the nation [only Florida and Hawaii are warmer]. In sections of Los Angeles the average winter maximums stay above 70F [pretty close to what is the norm in Tampa and Orlando] yet hundreds of miles north of those cities.

For example, Montebello [a suburb of LA]; average maximums:
Jan: 70F
Feb: 71F
Mar: 73F
Apr: 77F
May: 79F
Jun: 84F
Jul: 89F
Aug: 89F
Sep: 88F
Oct: 82F
Nov: 75F
Dec: 71F
Monthly Averages for Montebello, CA - weather.com

Palm Springs:
Jan: 70F
Feb: 75F
Mar: 80F
Apr: 88F
May: 95F
Jun: 104F
Jul: 108F
Aug: 107F
Sep: 101F
Oct: 91F
Nov: 78F
Dec: 70F
Monthly Averages for Palm Springs, CA - weather.com

Only extreme southern Texas and Central Florida on south have such warm winters. Also Phoenix is much warmer than many Southern cities that are much further south.

It's hard to beat such a mild climate that is experienced in California.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:22 PM
 
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My dream weather averages month by month would be something like this:

January: highs in the low 50s to the 60s, lows in the 30s. Although if it was a bit cooler than 50 I wouldn't mind.
February pretty much the same as the above
March: highs in the 60s to low 70s
April and May: Spring
June-August and maybe September: warm to hot with thunderstorms
October and November: highs in the upper 50s to about 68, lows in the 50s and 40s.
December: A real December with at least some snow.

I wonder if any place like this exists. I just know that the temperatures I listed are my preferred averages. But in my current home state the weather isn't too bad. I'll put up with it. For example today in Los Angeles it is a warm 81 degrees with a high of 86 expected tomorrow. Not bad.

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Old 09-15-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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My first choice would be Hawaii- 80 degrees with trade winds everyday of the year. F the winter. Second would be San Diego, slightly inland above the fog bank, but not so eastern that it is hot. 65-85 all year, low humidity. Fortunately that's where I live. I personally wouldn't want to live right next to the coast in SD b/c of the fog in May/June (and this summer pretty much everyday). I don't find it boring to surf in december or be able to wear shorts or a wool suit almost everyday of the year (dry heat below 80 is comfortable in either shorts or a suit). It's nice to be able to jog everyday outside, go for a hike, etc. Nothing on the east coast compares. Second favorite is mountain (Utah/Colorado) followed by desert, followed by Pacific NW, followed by Northeast (NY type weather), followed by SE, and last and least, upper midwest (barf).
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:00 PM
 
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Thanks for putting together all the data; I appreciate posters who go to the trouble of gathering information And what you present is, of-course, correct. But one thing that is quite ironic is that Southern states including northern Florida are actually colder than Southern California during winter and why certain plants\ trees can not survive the Southern winter. Much further south than California yet colder and more likely to experience frost and even snow; look at all the freezing temperatures & snowstorms Texas experiences right down to the Gulf Coast. That kind of cold is unheard of in coastal California even though California is well north of the deep South. So certain crops and palm trees, etc. do very well in California but would die in the South. This has to do with the Midwest\ Plains states being wide open to Arctic air masses that the Rocky mountains and the Sierra Nevada mountains block from entering California. Texas regularly gets northern winds right out of Canada each winter and sub-freezing temperatures; same with New Orleans and places like Jacksonville Florida.

It can get cold in California but the likelihood of frost is so much less than Southern states. I read recently that the last time freezing temperatures occurred in Los Angeles was over 60 yrs ago. Even Miami has been colder during that time and it is practically in the subtropics. The Pacific ocean and the high mountains modify the cold air and why southern California is one of the warmest states in the nation [only Florida and Hawaii are warmer]. In sections of Los Angeles the average winter maximums stay above 70F [pretty close to what is the norm in Tampa and Orlando] yet hundreds of miles north of those cities.

For example, Montebello [a suburb of LA]; average maximums:
Jan: 70F
Feb: 71F
Mar: 73F
Apr: 77F
May: 79F
Jun: 84F
Jul: 89F
Aug: 89F
Sep: 88F
Oct: 82F
Nov: 75F
Dec: 71F
Monthly Averages for Montebello, CA - weather.com

Palm Springs:
Jan: 70F
Feb: 75F
Mar: 80F
Apr: 88F
May: 95F
Jun: 104F
Jul: 108F
Aug: 107F
Sep: 101F
Oct: 91F
Nov: 78F
Dec: 70F
Monthly Averages for Palm Springs, CA - weather.com

Only extreme southern Texas and Central Florida on south have such warm winters. Also Phoenix is much warmer than many Southern cities that are much further south.

It's hard to beat such a mild climate that is experienced in California.

Let me just mention a few things…since you seem interested...and I have done alot of climate research over the years:

First, no doubt deserts are warmer than coastal areas. Worldwide deserts (Cairo, Phoenix, etc) heat up faster because dry air heats up faster than humid air…and solar radiation (sunshine) is normally greater in the cloudless desert areas on average. So it’s not surprising that Phoenix and Palm Springs are quite warm in winter. However… southern Florida (Miami, Palm Beach, Key West, Ft. Lauderdale, Naples…etc) on the Gulf coast/East Coast - is still the warmest region on the USA mainland in winter.

As far as record cold…outside of deep south Florida…while cold snaps are not very likely along the Gulf/south Atlantic or coastal California…they are not unheard of in either area. You must remember that there is a great variation to climate over time: some decades see several frosts in one area (coastal TX)…some decades see frosts in another area (coastal CA). As recently as 1990 and 1998…temps in much of coastal California fell into the 20’s F. A major freeze hit coastal California shortly before Christmas in December, 1990 and 1998. These freezes sent temperatures plunging into the low 20's in many Citrus and Avocado growing areas, causing millions of dollars in damage up and down the state:

Using Online Resources to Determine Your Gardening Microclimate. (http://www.cloudforest.com/weather/weather_res.html - broken link)

The same goes for snowfall…one decade, a rare snow event might occur in one region of the American subtropics (Texas)…another decade snow might occur in another region of the American subtropics (LA). Los Angeles has had snow several times…including January 1949 – when 3.0 inches officially fell downtown (parts of the eastern side of the city reported amounts from 8 to 12 inches). Even as recently as 2007 – there was a light dusting of snow in Malibu area and in West Los Angeles.

Snow in Los Angeles (Pasadena) 1949:



1949 Snowstorm in LA:
http://fwix.com/la/share/5c8924ba00/...anuary_11_1949

So the cities on the Gulf Coast/Southeast Atlantic coast are not alone in rare snowfall. The only city on the USA mainland where no trace of snow has ever been known to occur in 300 years - is Key West, FL. In Miami – only once in the last 100 years has a trace (meaning less than 0.1 inches) of snow been seen in the Miami area - in 1977.

My original point…was comparing coastal California and the Gulf/East Coast in terms of warm/hot temps. The fact remains that the Gulf and south Atlantic states are significantly warmer than anywhere in coastal California much of the year. In winter...cities like LA, San Diego, Long Beach…etc are only 3 to 6 F warmer during the day than most cities on the Gulf Coast/lower East Coast (north of Florida). Here are some comparisons of daily winter highs using National Weather Service data:

Long Beach, CA
Dec – 67 F
Jan – 67 F
Feb – 67 F

Corpus Christi, TX
Dec – 68 F
Jan – 66 F
Feb – 70 F

San Diego, CA
Dec – 66 F
Jan – 65 F
Feb – 66 F

New Orleans, LA
Dec – 64 F
Jan – 62 F
Feb – 65 F

Savannah, GA
Dec – 62 F
Jan – 62 F
Feb – 64 F

In any of the cities listed above on the Gulf/lower East Coast…beyond the 3 winter months (Dec/Jan/Feb)…the weather is warmer in every single month compared to anywhere in coastal California. Coastal southern California (south of Big Sur or so) has great weather frequently – mild /steady/sunny outside of early summer – but my point was if one seeks hot, sunny, beach weather, with much warmer ocean waters (such as I do) for a longest portion of the year…the Gulf/lower East Coast is easily the place to be.
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