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I have seen your data before it is NOT based on the census criteria for UA, it even includes combined CSAs for certain areas
UA doesn't follow city, metro or CSA limits they go by what their name says.
Why don't yall go like NOLA, once the king city west of the Atlantic, but now a gracefull city steeped in History never trying to compete with anyone.
NOLA is NOLA, can't Philly be philly instead of trying to create metrics to keep it above the rising cities?
I can see you in 20 years rattling off to the grandkids how back in your day Philly was the bees knees and all these young upstarts are trying to take over (by then the young upstarts would have taken over for 4 decades)
I dunno what Kidphilly is on about, the bay area is one big urban area. But if something is ranked above Philly, he will argue to the death that it is not. The UA I posted for the area is much closer to reality than what he posted.
Actually HTown, Philly is part of UA that is continuously populated with more than 23 million
And on 2009 estimates they are from World conferance on planning, they use a different criteria than does the Census and once again posted the link used FROM THE US CENSUS for the 2008 US CENSUS estimates. You are clearly either a pain or just plain biligerant
Here is the Philly UA - It connects from DE (actually a small sliver of MD just north of the Baltimore MSA)in the South up to Long Islan and CT through the Trenton UA and Directly into the NY UA but is cut on municpal boudaries. Also on the bay area comparison, one the commuter rates between the Mercer MSA and Philly MSA is much higher (24.8% in 2000) than the SJ/SF MSAs and also less than half the distance and are not combined. Also the Reading UA 280K (directly connected is cut from the number and as close as SJ is to SF) Allentown/Beth also ~the same distance has an additional 700K in the UA not counted either, nor is the Vineland NJ UA at 100K. So yes I agree SF is large but does not have near the population in continuous UA. Also on the mountain rational, should AC be added to Philly (on the map below the whole yellow area That large yellow blob in the middle of S Jersey) between Philly and AC is the National forrest that at each border is completely developed, you are not allowed to build in it.
Lastly for the Bay on being one big area the continuous UA the area between Philly and NYC is far larger and far more continuously populated (23-24 million). The census excludes areas in seperate MSAs in their coninuous UA count.
Here is SF on same scale (185 miles across)
Last edited by kidphilly; 09-22-2010 at 07:04 PM..
Unwillingness to accept an obvious truth, is one of the hallmarks of jealousy.
Those stuck in the massive suburbs of the sunbelt are obviously jealous of something in Philly. But jealousy is ok, its a natural human emotion.
With that, I'm done humoring you country bumkins.
Lol and those in Philly stuck in the ever decayIng slums..and trashed streets . Unwilling too see that your time in the limelight is over .. It's RiSe of the sunbelt.. You had your time accept the fact and move on..
I'm tired of humoring with you arrogant urban dense crazed Yankees..
Last edited by MikeandIke27; 09-22-2010 at 06:55 PM..
Lol and those in Philly stuck in the ever decayIng slums..and trashed streets . Unwilling too see that your time in the limelight is over .. It's RiSe of the sunbelt.. You had your time accept the fact and move on..
I'm tired of humoring with you arrogant urban dense crazed Yankees..
Well, that's pretty uncalled for. Philadelphia is by far a greater city than anything you'd find in Texas, or the south for that matter. The sunbelt is having it's booming period for now. I'm sure things will have died down greatly by 2020. The things that allow the sunbelt to rise to "greatness" will be the same factors that eventually bring about its demise. Car centric planning will only allow these cities to sprawl so far, and an infill is going to cost a ton of money and be very difficult to get going.
Houston and Dallas can brag all they want that they've surpassed Philadelphia in population, but most people would agree that Philadelphia is by far the superior city.
Aww so now there useless since Philly has been surpassed..
no not useless just no more relevant than are CSA, UA, DMA, City etc depending on the comparison. To make a blanket statement that either Philly is bigger than Houston or Houston is inaccurate dependoing on the criteria, BTW the 2010 early estimate had Houston less than 20K ahead of Philly not statistically different and within the error range, either way it will pass unless counties are added back to the Philly MSA.
On UA (larger Urban area), CSA (Larger expaned Metro) and DMA (the largest margin nearly 30% larger based on proximity of population and media markets) DMA Rankings - US TV Households by Market (http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/markettrack/US_HH_by_DMA.asp - broken link) Philly is still considerably larger
Last edited by kidphilly; 09-22-2010 at 07:20 PM..
Lol and those in Philly stuck in the ever decayIng slums..and trashed streets . Unwilling too see that your time in the limelight is over .. It's RiSe of the sunbelt.. You had your time accept the fact and move on..
I'm tired of humoring with you arrogant urban dense crazed Yankees..
The 55 million people who live those so called time over-ed,end of limelight places will be just fine with largest economies, best education, highest incomes, best urban cities and most cultural locations. Get out of your car once in a while and experience what a city can offer. Because honestly there are good things going on in the sunbelt cities
BTW it is not about density it is about vibrancy, car oriented neighborhoods by and large offer no where near the level of vibrance provided by more dense neighborhoods. But honestly we all get to choose where we live and that is really a great thing about this country
What, yet another OCD post by Kidphilly to prove to us how Philadelphia is the #4 city based on whatever metric he came up with plus whining about the US Census again? What is this, a day that ends in "Y"?
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