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Old 09-30-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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2009 City Estimates (Incorporated Cities of 250,000+)
Rank City 2009 Estimate, 2008 Estimate (Change)

01. New York 8,391,881, 8,346,794 (45,087)
02. Los Angeles 3,831,868, 3,801,576 (30,292)
03. Chicago 2,851,268, 2,830,026 (21,242)
04. Houston 2,257,926, 2,238,183 (19,743)
05. Phoenix 1,593,659, 1,569,917 (23,742)
06. Philadelphia 1,547,297, 1,540,351 (6,946)
07. San Antonio 1,373,668, 1,349,274 (24,394)
08. San Diego 1,306,300, 1,305,754 (546)
09. Dallas 1,299,542, 1,279,539 (20,003)
10. San Jose 964,695, 948,686 (16,009)
Okay, this is the more accurate listing
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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We have to keep in mind that these estimates are 'adjusted' and so we really shouldnt take a huge annual increase as an actual increase, but perhaps the Census Bureau just got more data in 2009 than they did in 2008.

Until the actual census, its not nearly as cut and dry.
Basically. I think may of the numbers for 2009 are adjusted methodologies for that year, so the previous estimate the year before may not be that relevant?
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:48 AM
 
Location: You Already Know: San Diego!
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Dallas should pass San Diego by 2010.
I don't think so.

San Diego population 2010: 1,400,000
Dallas population 2010: 1,370,000
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: You Already Know: San Diego!
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33. Atlanta: 540,921 540,932

This is way too low.....What 11 people????
San Diego only gained about 536 people. Look at that. Your fate is just like ours this time. But a lot of us , don't agree.

San Diego population!
in 2008, release population: 1,279,329
in 2008, challenge flag: 1,305,754
in 2009, release population: 1,306,301

Don't be emarrassed your city didn't gain a lot! But our city, on the list, gained over 60,000 people .
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Look at Chicago from 2000 all the way to 2008, it has a trend of going up and down continuously. 1990-2000 it showed population gain and in the 2000's its been sporadic in that it could gain one year and lose the next.
Also look at Los Angeles 2005 & 2006.
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Old 01-01-2011, 02:29 AM
 
Location: You Already Know: San Diego!
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2009 City Estimates (Incorporated Cities of 250,000+)
Rank City 2009 Estimate, 2008 Estimate (Change)

01. New York 8,391,881, 8,346,794 (45,087)
02. Los Angeles 3,831,868, 3,801,576 (30,292)
03. Chicago 2,851,268, 2,830,026 (21,242)
04. Houston 2,257,926, 2,238,183 (19,743)
05. Phoenix 1,593,659, 1,569,917 (23,742)
06. Philadelphia 1,547,297, 1,540,351 (6,946)
07. San Antonio 1,373,668, 1,349,274 (24,394)
08. San Diego 1,306,300, 1,305,754 (546)
09. Dallas 1,299,542, 1,279,539 (20,003)
10. San Jose 964,695, 948,686 (16,009)
11. Detroit 910,921 912,632 (-1,711)
12. San Francisco 815,358 808,001 (7,357)
13. Jacksonville 813,518 809,891 (3,627)
14. Indianapolis city (balance) 807,584 800,730 (6,854)
15. Austin 786,386 767,201 (19,185)
16. Columbus 769,332 759,360 (9,972)
17. Fort Worth 727,577 704,299 (23,278)
18. Charlotte 704,422 687,971 (16,451)
19. Memphis 676,640, 676,660 (-20)
20. Boston 645,169, 636,748 (8,421)
21. Baltimore 637,418, 638,091 (-673)
22. El Paso 620,456, 609,248 (11,208)
23. Seattle 616,627, 602,934 (13,693)
24. Denver 610,345, 593,086 (17,259)
25. Nashville-Davidson Co. (balance) 605,473, 598,465 (7,008)
26. Milwaukee 605,013, 604,179 (834)
27. Washington city District of Columbia 599,657, 590,074 (9,583)
28. Las Vegas city Nevada 567,641, 562,849 (4,792)
29. Louisville/Jefferson Co. (balance) 566,503, 563,119 (3,384)
30. Portland 566,143, 556,442 (9,701)
31. Oklahoma City 560,333, 551,875 (8,458)
32. Tucson 543,910, 540,653 (3,257)
33. Atlanta 540,922, 537,385 (3,537)
34. Albuquerque 529,219, 523,240 (5,979)
35. Kansas City 482,299, 480,129 (2,170)
36. Fresno 479,918, 472,949 (6,969)
37. Mesa 467,157, 463,829 (3,328)
38. Sacramento 466,676, 461,036 (5,640)
39. Long Beach 462,604, 460,138 (2,466)
40. Omaha 454,731, 448,050 (6,681)
41. Virginia Beach 433,575, 432,228 (1,347)
42. Miami 433,136, 431,196 (1,940)
43. Cleveland 431,369, 434,023 (-2,654)
44. Oakland 409,189, 403,188 (6,001)
45. Raleigh 405,612, 393,692 (11,920)
46. Colorado Springs 399,827, 397,317 (2,510)
47. Tulsa 389,625, 385,755 (3,870)
48. Minneapolis 385,378, 381,978 (3,400)
49. Arlington 380,085, 374,793 (5,292)
50. Honolulu 374,658, 373,295 (1,363)
51. Wichita 372,186, 365,838 (6,348)
52. St. Louis 356,587, 356,730 (-143)
53. New Orleans 354,850, 336,644 (18,206)
54. Tampa 343,890, 340,108 (3,782)
55. Santa Ana 340,338, 337,152 (3,186)
56. Anaheim 337,896, 333,114 (4,782)
57. Cincinnati 333,012, 333,170 (-158)
58. Bakersfield 324,463, 318,701 (5,762)
59. Aurora 323,348, 316,676 (6,672)
60. Toledo 316,179, 316,664 (-485)
61. Pittsburgh 311,647, 312,119 (-472)
62. Riverside 297,841, 293,207 (4,634)
63. Lexington-Fayette urban county 296,545, 292,240 (4,305)
64. Stockton 287,578, 285,357 (2,221)
65. Corpus Christi 287,439, 284,845 (2,594)
66. Anchorage 286,174, 280,471 (5,703)
67. St. Paul 281,253, 279,447 (1,806)
68. Newark 278,154, 277,377 777
69. Plano 273,613, 268,552 5,061
70. Buffalo 270,240, 271,220 (-980)
71. Henderson 256,445, 253,693 (2,752)
72. Fort Wayne 255,890 254,143 (1,747)
73. Greensboro 255,124 251,179 (3,945)
74. Lincoln 254,001, 250,939 (3,062)
75. Glendale 253,209, 251,772 (1,437)

This makes me uncomfortable . Too many mistakes by the US Census Bureau. The ones highlighted are so very very wrong. Lets give them expert opinion, being in 2011 now.

Los Angeles: 3,981,794
Phoenix: 1,614,355
San Diego: 1,353,879
Dallas: 1,284,500
San Jose: 1,001,318
Memphis: 663,018
Las Vegas 581,813
New Orleans: 381,097


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Old 01-01-2011, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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Dallas will surpass San Diego, Dallas' pop growth is stronger.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Look at Chicago from 2000 all the way to 2008, it has a trend of going up and down continuously. 1990-2000 it showed population gain and in the 2000's its been sporadic in that it could gain one year and lose the next.
Also look at Los Angeles 2005 & 2006.
I wonder why they've been having so much trouble with Chicago's etimates since 1990. Chicago was estimated to have lost over 100,000 people. Instead, it gained 100,000 when the 2000 census numbers came out. Now, it's up and down again. It will be interesting to see the final numbers.
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Old 01-03-2011, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Carrboro and Concord, NC
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Yeah, that is stupid crazy. I just wish the skyline was growing with it.
Raleigh's growth is borderline surreal. In North Carolina, cities grow through annexation, though it should be noted that of the ten largest cities in the state, by looking at real estate sales in city boundaries before and after annexations (and other factors), all but two of the state's 10 largest picked up more from in-migration than from annexations. In Raleigh, it's far more dramatic than anywhere else though - keeping up with it (in terms of infrastructure) is slightly beyond the city's ability at the moment.

I would note that for every decade starting in 1980, census bureau estimates in North Carolina have turned out to be lower than the actual numbers when the final census tallies were in. Given that growth projections and population estimates have direct bearing on things like schools, highway construction, and mass transit, the larger-than-expected numbers aren't necessarily a pleasant surprise, if plans (for example) for a freeway end up low-balled on traffic projections, causing something to be overburdened they day the ribbon is cut.

And because of this there are a couple cities - Cary (!) and Chapel Hill (which has had an Oregon-style urban growth boundary for a few decades now) - that have tried to downshift the influx to a more realistically manageable level.
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Old 01-05-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Well many of us here use ACS all the time, but the problem was, it was outdated by 2 years. They only had up to 2008 information there. So basically cities with struggling population gains/loses like Chicago & Philadelphia you would have no idea if they continued given trends or not.

Well yesterday they finally released the 2009 population and demographic estimates too. So we no longer need to use the 2008 numbers anymore.
I wanted to dedicate this thread to my hometown Chicago, and cities along with it like Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Detroit, New York City, & San Francisco, that way you can see if the city proper is growing or shrinking from 2008 to now.
So first I want to put the 2008 numbers, (remember this is only for city proper population).

2008 City Proper Population:
01. New York City: 8,363,710
02. Los Angeles: 3,803,383
03. Chicago: 2,741,455
04. Houston: 2,224,670
05. Phoenix: 1,525,257
06. Philadelphia: 1,447,395
07. San Antonio: 1,292,997
08. San Diego: 1,266,963
09. Dallas: 1,227,082
10. San Jose: 916,715
11. Detroit: 912,493
12. San Francisco: 808,976
13. Jacksonville: 811,953
14. Indianapolis: 798,594
15. Austin: 777,783
16. Columbus: 740,086
17. Fort Worth: 677,897
18. Charlotte: 685,002
19. Memphis: 635,626
20. Boston: 613,411
21. Baltimore: 636,919
22. El Paso: 602,422
23. Seattle: 582,490
24. Denver: 598,707
25. Nashville: 601,129
26. Milwaukee: 581,099
27. Washington DC: 591,833
28. Las Vegas: 577,419
29. Louisville: 566,869
30. Portland: 560,194
31. Oklahoma City: 546,503
32. Tucson: 540,104
33. Atlanta: 540,921
34. Albuquerque: 514,895
35. Kansas City: 436,402
37. Sacramento: 457,849
40. Omaha: 388,874
42. Miami: 343,142
43. Cleveland: 408,101
44. Oakland: 365,875
45. Raleigh: 367,959
47. Tulsa: 388,890
48. Minneapolis: 360,914
50. Honolulu: 371,148
52. Saint Louis: 354,361
53. New Orleans: 311,853
54. Tampa: 341,137
57. Cincinnati: 294,771
61. Pittsburgh: 297,187
70. Buffalo: 263,366
78. Jersey City: 235,769
80. Orlando: 232,337

2009 City Proper Population:
01. New York City: 8,391,881
02. Los Angeles: 3,831,880
03. Chicago: 2,850,502
04. Houston: 2,260,918
05. Phoenix: 1,593,660
06. Philadelphia: 1,547,297
07. San Antonio: 1,373,677
08. San Diego: 1,306,228
09. Dallas: 1,299,590
10. San Jose: 964,679
11. Detroit: 910,848
12. San Francisco: 815,358
13. Jacksonville: 813,518
14. Indianapolis: 807,640
15. Austin: 790,593
16. Columbus: 773,021
17. Fort Worth: 731,588
18. Charlotte: 704,417
19. Memphis: 676,646
20. Boston: 645,187
21. Baltimore: 637,418
22. El Paso: 620,440
23. Seattle: 616,669
24. Denver: 610,345
25. Nashville: 605,466
26. Milwaukee: 605,027
27. Washington DC: 599,657
28. Las Vegas: 567,610
29. Louisville: 566,492
30. Portland: 566,606
31. Oklahoma City: 560,226
32. Tucson: 543,907
33. Atlanta: 540,932
34. Albuquerque: 529,216
35. Kansas City: 482,228
37. Sacramento: 466,685
40. Omaha: 454,714
42. Miami: 433,143
43. Cleveland: 431,369
44. Oakland: 409,151
45. Raleigh: 404,551
47. Tulsa: 389,369
48. Minneapolis: 385,384
50. Honolulu: 374,658
52. Saint Louis: 356,587
53. New Orleans: 354,850
54. Tampa: 343,879
57. Cincinnati: 333,013
61. Pittsburgh: 311,640
70. Buffalo: 270,221
78. Jersey City: 242,503
80. Orlando: 235,876

After you get to the 30's you'll notice that some of the numbers are not there, I didn't want to waste time with satellite cities and suburbs of larger cities like Mesa & Arlington, so I kept them out of it.


Thoughts:
-Las Vegas & Louisville recorded their first population decline. Las Vegas took a big hit. Louisville saw a very very microscopic decline. But Las Vegas saw a massive one.
-Baltimore has just now shown after 60 years that its population is going to grow again.
-Philadelphia seems to be on Phoenix's neck.
-Chicago has started growing again and will continue too, there must be a lot of infill taking place within the city.
-Atlanta, Miami, Oakland, Cleveland, Buffalo, & others are all growing and there must be some infill taking place.
-Detroit seems to be struggling to stabilize, but it doesn't look too bad compared to what it seemed to be before. Hopefully it can reverse the decline.

Source: American FactFinder

Please note: Yeah, I know city populations aren't important compared to Metros, but I still thought this would be interesting. Another thing, the moment I see even one post that starts a bicker parade and back and forth swings at each other (and respective locations) I will request for this to be closed. (I prefer there to be no bickering here, keep it civil and constructive) So keep it civil, want to bicker get a room, DM each other, do whatever besides derailing my thread.
A highly error pronged listing don't you think............
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