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To the moderator. I think you killed the wrong thread. This is not a city versus city issue.
It is a GIGO issue...garbage in garbage out. There is no way in the world for instance that Las Vegas has three of the countries worst neighborhoods. It has none. And the three neighborhood picked are a factor of three off the worse neighborhoods in Las vegas.
I would suspect from some of the numbers that they have used metro police numbers with city of Las Vegas population. That is a mistake that has even been made by the feds on one occassion.
The whole thesis of the site is likely an impossibilty. The required data is simply not collected and available.
So we got a garbage site publishing trash. Not a suitable yardstick to compare anything.
Boston - 14,000 units - 5.5% of housing units
New York - 178,554 units - 5.4% of housing units
Baltimore - 10,000 units - 3.4% of housing units
Minneapolis - 5,800 units - 3.3% of housing units
Washington DC - 8,000 units - 2.8% of housing units
Oakland - 3,308 units - 2% of housing units
San Francisco - 6,575 units - 1.8% of housing units
Milwaukee - 4,303 units - 1.8% of housing units
Seattle - 5,200 units - 1.8% of housing units
Sacramento - 3,144 units - 1.7% of housing units
Chicago - 16,500 units - 1.4% of housing units
Detroit - 4,000 units - 1.1% of housing units
Kansas City, MO - 1,964 units - 0.9% of housing units
Houston - 4,200 units - 0.5% of housing units
Los Angeles - 9,300 units - 0.7% of housing units
San Diego - 1,800 units - 0.4% of housing units
Of those 16 cities, only 3 appear on the "most dangerous neighborhoods" list. Boston & New York City, which have the two highest percentages of public housing in the country, are also among the safest major cities in the country.
yeah but if we were to look at the crime rates of those projects they might tell a differnet story. New york may be the safest city but im sure people living in some of the projects there will tell you they are still affected by crime daily. Same with boston and minneapolis ect.
Huh? How is that Chicago area the #1 most dangerous neigbhorhood in the country? It's a few blocks from the United Center, 75% of it is an industrial area specializing in beverage/food distribution and the other 25% is a redeveloped area of new condos.
I drive through there all the time when I'm avoiding the expressway, and while it's hardly a beautiful area, it's far from what I would call the worst in the city - let alone the country!!
The other Chicago neigbhorhood is a large vacant field with a few houses towards the bottom of the plot.
yeah but if we were to look at the crime rates of those projects they might tell a differnet story. New york may be the safest city but im sure people living in some of the projects there will tell you they are still affected by crime daily. Same with boston and minneapolis ect.
Perhaps...but my point is that more public housing doesn't necessarily mean more crime. Even if these people are affected moreso by crime than other areas of the city, it means that either 1. Most crime takes place outside of public housing or 2. Boston and New York are total aberrations in keeping their housing projects relatively safe while crime in the public housing of other cities makes Medellin look like Munich.
Perhaps...but my point is that more public housing doesn't necessarily mean more crime. Even if these people are affected moreso by crime than other areas of the city, it means that either 1. Most crime takes place outside of public housing or 2. Boston and New York are total aberrations in keeping their housing projects relatively safe while crime in the public housing of other cities makes Medellin look like Munich.
I think the truth is closer to #1.
um the majority of housing projects in nyc and Boston are not safe sir.
um the majority of housing projects in nyc and Boston are not safe sir.
I'm not claiming they are...I suppose instead of "relatively", I should have said "comparatively" safe. My "2." bullet point was referring to posters saying More Public Housing = More crime. If that were true, Boston and New York--which have considerably more public housing than any other city in the country--would have to keep their public housing very safe comparatively speaking to public housing in cities like Chicago, Detroit, etc. since those cities have considerably less public housing and considerably more crime.
I feel like I may not be communicating this clearly, so if I'm speaking in a confusing manner, let me know. I've had too much coffee today and didn't sleep enough last night.
I'm not claiming they are...I suppose instead of "relatively", I should have said "comparatively" safe. My "2." bullet point was referring to posters saying More Public Housing = More crime. If that were true, Boston and New York--which have considerably more public housing than any other city in the country--would have to keep their public housing very safe comparatively speaking to public housing in cities like Chicago, Detroit, etc. since those cities have considerably less public housing and considerably more crime.
I feel like I may not be communicating this clearly, so if I'm speaking in a confusing manner, let me know. I've had too much coffee today and didn't sleep enough last night.
o no your right on man. now that you have explained it better i fully understand and your right. more housing projects does not equal crime thats just strange because housing projects are only a small portion of certain neighborhoods anyway.
the more i look into, the the more i believe that list is complete BS.
it is it has to be smh. even the Chicago news tv stations are looking at this list in total bs.
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