U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.37%
Phil 17 1.79%
DC 93 9.79%
Atlanta 554 58.32%
Memphis 10 1.05%
New ORleans 24 2.53%
Houston 16 1.68%
Seattle 10 1.05%
Chicago 26 2.74%
Detroit 66 6.95%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.05%
There is none. 73 7.68%
Voters: 950. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-16-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: DMV Area
908 posts, read 530,592 times
Reputation: 1679

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis View Post
What about the Blacks who don't like Atlanta or DC? I personally love DC and like Atlanta but not every Black person want to live in either place.
Okay...what about them? And good for you if you donít want to live in either...that has nothing to do with what one might consider the capital of Black America. Thereís other cities where blacks can live and prosper, but thatís not the point of this thread, and yet most posters on here donít seem to understand that
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-16-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
7,426 posts, read 5,846,551 times
Reputation: 3376
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC's Finest View Post
Like I said a few posts back. How can you claim the Mecca of anything when the richest, most educated, most influential, most powerful blacks are 10 hours north of Atlanta. Howard University is called the Mecca for a reason. Look at it this way. NeNe Leaks and Condi Rice probably have similar wealth. NeNe may be more popular among the masses but Condi has more power and influence. That's the difference between Atlanta and DC.
NeNe is wealthier than "Condi," and doesn't have a boss, so what definition of "power" are you using to justify your claims?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-16-2018, 05:41 PM
 
4,948 posts, read 8,412,343 times
Reputation: 2046
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakeesha View Post
Condoleezza is from Birmingham, AL.
And NeNe isnít from Atlanta either.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-16-2018, 05:45 PM
 
4,948 posts, read 8,412,343 times
Reputation: 2046
Quote:
Originally Posted by KodeBlue View Post
NeNe is wealthier than "Condi," and doesn't have a boss, so what definition of "power" are you using to justify your claims?
If I have to explain that to you, this conversation is a lost cause homey. NeNe does have a boss unless she owns Bravo. You should log off the internet after that post.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-16-2018, 06:19 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
7,426 posts, read 5,846,551 times
Reputation: 3376
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC's Finest View Post
If I have to explain that to you, this conversation is a lost cause homey. NeNe does have a boss unless she owns Bravo. You should log off the internet after that post.
You'll have to explain it, and please don't be vague.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2018, 06:54 AM
 
28,873 posts, read 26,198,195 times
Reputation: 17442
Quote:
Originally Posted by biscuit_head View Post
If you're offended, leave, no one asked you to open this thread, now did they? We don't care about your "all lives matter" shtick and your need to please Massa to feel validated and definitely don't need you telling us how we should feel about anything. You're taking this thread about what's the "capital" way too literally. But I suspect you're either a bot, or typing in digital blackface so you can run back to Breitbart and report on what us terrible negroes are talking about today.


As for this thread, I lived in Atlanta in the mid 2000s to 2010s and currently live in the DC Area. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Atlanta is a lot more well-rounded overall than DC when it comes to Black life due to the far more diverse economy, so you have more people from different aspects of life than you do in DC, which has always catered to the Federal Government and the peripheral economy that depends on it. In Atlanta, there are more black people in a variety of industries and backgrounds who are successful. You're more likely to meet someone who may not have an Ivy-League degree, but they've been successful as entrepreneurs and people in ATL won't look down on you for not having a college degree or having a certain GS-level the way they do in DC. One of my friends here is driving himself mad about getting a higher GS-level position, and I work as a contractor in the private sector, and I wonder at times if I want to jump upon that hamster wheel. As for the black culture in Atlanta, I'll reiterate that even though the black community there is quite diverse (the black professional crowd, the buppie crowd, the working class, the hood crowd, the black hipsters, black gay community, the Afrocentric community are all pretty well represented there), its not the be-all and end-all for black culture, so all these people from other cities who are pressed about people stating their reasons for why they feel it's the "Capital" of Black America, get over it.

Atlanta used to be seen as just another southern town compared to DC, but the lower cost of living and warmer weather and it's popularity in the media have definitely given the city an edge since the 1970s, but the true momentum for Atlanta didn't really happen until the late 1980s/early 1990s. D.C. was seen as a beacon for educated black opportunity for many years (while Chicago and Detroit were the cities for Blue Collar/Working Class Opportunities), but ATL certainly caught up and surpassed it in many ways. The higher COL of the DMV area in general has kept the black population growth here at bay compared to the rapid rise of ATL in the last 30 years or so.

Also, even though Atlanta has a higher black poverty rate, it doesn't have quite the stark contrast between the "haves," and "have-nots" as the black population in DC partially due to the lower cost of living. It's there, but it's a lot easier to perpetrate in Atlanta due to the lower cost of housing and getting more bang for your buck in general than in the DMV area. To be blunt, you have a large population here that historically served as "the Help" for the more prosperous population of DC, black white, whoever. This originally consisted of black native Washingtonians who lived East of 16th St and the Anacostia River, but as the metro area diversified and has a higher Latino population (many of whom are working class), and you have lots of educated blacks with money continuously moving here, the lines are a lot blurrier than they used to be.
Very well-thought out post; I concur.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2018, 07:05 AM
 
28,873 posts, read 26,198,195 times
Reputation: 17442
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC's Finest View Post
Like I said a few posts back. How can you claim the Mecca of anything when the richest, most educated, most influential, most powerful blacks are 10 hours north of Atlanta. Howard University is called the Mecca for a reason. Look at it this way. NeNe Leaks and Condi Rice probably have similar wealth. NeNe may be more popular among the masses but Condi has more power and influence. That's the difference between Atlanta and DC.
The most basic definition of a "mecca" is "a place regarded as a center for a specified group, activity, or interest" (Mirriam-Webster) or "a place that attracts people of a particular group or with a particular interest" (Oxford). Since we're talking about Black America as a whole here and not just the richest, most educated, most influential Blacks (and it should be recognized that DC has plenty of "ordinary" Blacks too), it can legitimately be argued that the city that more resembles a cross-section of Black America is more of a mecca in the strictest sense. And when you consider the second definition in particular, no other city has been as successful at actually attracting Blacks (for relocation purposes) in the past four decades or so as Atlanta so it does excel on that point.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2018, 08:24 AM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
4,309 posts, read 2,156,685 times
Reputation: 2621
i feel like the last few pages of arguments can be boiled down to: atlanta is the prom queen and washington, d.c. would be the valedictorian ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: DMV Area
908 posts, read 530,592 times
Reputation: 1679
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanley-88888888 View Post
i feel like the last few pages of arguments can be boiled down to: atlanta is the prom queen and washington, d.c. would be the valedictorian ?


Yep!




Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2018, 08:45 AM
 
4,948 posts, read 8,412,343 times
Reputation: 2046
Quote:
Originally Posted by KodeBlue View Post
You'll have to explain it, and please don't be vague.
And another thing! How can you be the "Capital of Black America" when you don't even acknowledge or celebrate Emancipation Day? That's a holiday in DC.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. | Please obey Forum Rules | Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top