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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.34%
Phil 17 1.78%
DC 93 9.74%
Atlanta 558 58.43%
Memphis 10 1.05%
New ORleans 24 2.51%
Houston 16 1.68%
Seattle 10 1.05%
Chicago 26 2.72%
Detroit 66 6.91%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.05%
There is none. 74 7.75%
Voters: 955. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-28-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Bayou Classic as well for non homecoming Fall HBCU events.
Yes, very true.
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Old 10-28-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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Now I wouldn't go THAT far. FAMU, NC A&T, and SpelHouse homecomings are just as big as Howard's or maybe even bigger some years. Howard's is in the top tier no doubt but there's hardly a consensus that it's *the* largest. And although it's not a homecoming, you can't discount Magic City Classic which draws pretty big crowds.
a few perceptions:
i know what howard homecoming is (dont know much about the others). i have no idea what magic city classic is. did i just lose my black card ?
i know spellman and morehouse. but ive never seen the portmanteau spelhouse.
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Bayou Classic as well for non homecoming Fall HBCU events.
bayou classic as well.

am i alone, or are these events not as universally black as you guys infer (especially to us non-african-american northerners) ?

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Old 10-28-2018, 06:44 PM
 
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a few perceptions:
i know what howard homecoming is (dont know much about the others). i have no idea what magic city classic is. did i just lose my black card ?
i know spellman and morehouse. but ive never seen the portmanteau spelhouse.

bayou classic as well.

am i alone, or are these events not as universally black as you guys infer (especially to us non-african-american northerners)
?
If you have to ask you probably have LOL, In all seriousness you are way behind the curve for large black college events. As for the portmanteau Spel-House it's a thing. google AUC(Atlanta University Center) The Magic City Classic is the largest HBCU classic in America as well as the largest FCS game in America and the Bayou Classic is not far behind, both games average 65k and in some nice weather years Magic City is north of 70k. Both Magic City and Bayou Classics feature prominent HBCU's and enjoy a dearth of black culture (food, clothing, school spirit, HBCU pride, social awareness, political awareness, etc) and all its fun. When it comes to HBCU football games in urban areas it gets no bigger than Birmingham and New Orleans. Being up North is part of the reason you might not be aware of the impact, size and scope of these games but I assure you most people from Alabama or Louisiana or anyone with ties to an HBCU does.
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Old 10-28-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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a few perceptions:
i know what howard homecoming is (dont know much about the others). i have no idea what magic city classic is. did i just lose my black card ?
i know spellman and morehouse. but ive never seen the portmanteau spelhouse.

bayou classic as well.

am i alone, or are these events not as universally black as you guys infer (especially to us non-african-american northerners) ?
Lol, nah you haven't lost your Black card. Honestly football classics aren't quite as well known as homecomings overall as they tend to be more local/regional events and played on neutral ground, but Magic City Classic and Bayou Classic are exceptions, especially when it comes to attendance at the actual games themselves--which is the actual highlight. For homecomings, the football game is just one of several events and is played on campus.

Morehouse and Spelman, as sibling institutions, always hold their homecomings on the same weekend which makes sense when you think about the sporting and social events homecomings are known for.

As for Black Northerners, I guess y'all have Lincoln and Cheney in PA and Wilberforce in OH but I don't have a clue how well-attended their homecomings are. Howard's is gonna be as close and good as it gets for the Northeast and Morgan's homecoming in Baltimore is pretty solid. Delaware State is up that way but I don't know much about them. I don't know what to say to the Black Midwesterners lol.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:26 PM
 
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Lol, nah you haven't lost your Black card. Honestly football classics aren't quite as well known as homecomings overall as they tend to be more local/regional events and played on neutral ground, but Magic City Classic and Bayou Classic are exceptions, especially when it comes to attendance at the actual games themselves--which is the actual highlight. For homecomings, the football game is just one of several events and is played on campus.

Morehouse and Spelman, as sibling institutions, always hold their homecomings on the same weekend which makes sense when you think about the sporting and social events homecomings are known for.

As for Black Northerners, I guess y'all have Lincoln and Cheney in PA and Wilberforce in OH but I don't have a clue how well-attended their homecomings are. Howard's is gonna be as close and good as it gets for the Northeast and Morgan's homecoming in Baltimore is pretty solid. Delaware State is up that way but I don't know much about them. I don't know what to say to the Black Midwesterners lol.
I'm mostly in agreement but when considering the Magic City the game itself is not the actual highlight, perhaps the catalyst (a huge one) but not the highlight that would be the entertainment (4 day tailgate party, concerts, parties, comedy shows, parade etc.) that turns the city into a 2-3 day party. They even close city schools in Birmingham on classic Friday because there is so much (partying) going on that it no longer made sense to have school that day anymore. The attendance to the game is a major deal since the game is a big time HBCU rivalry game (in this case Alabama State and Alabama A&M) with a lot on the line between the alumni of both schools with the top hat trophy up for grabs. That being said as important as the game and all the bragging rights, reputation, money, in some cases conference position riding on it, it as at best as much of a draw as the entertainment that it brings to the city and in most cases secondary to it.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:36 PM
 
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I picked ďnone.Ē


IMO, every city Iíve been to is very segregated. So itís hard for me to say one is a black capital.
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Old 10-29-2018, 04:24 AM
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i have no family or friends connection to either (except fairly close to n.y.c.); but, both seem to come up fairly often in conversation and television i choose to watch.

are you really saying that independence, mo has the same mind-share as n.y.c., ny in the united states ?thats surprising. thanks for sharing.
No, what I'm saying is that I don't think or hear about NY or ATL everyday, which is what you said...

For starters, in California, where over 2.1 million b lk acks reside, you very rarely hear about NY, period. Atlanta has more importance to black Californians, but we don't hear about Atlanta everyday, either...

In Virginia, I would say we hear about NY more, but not all the time. In NC, it really depends where you are, you hear about both pretty equally and regularly, but you aren't consumed with either...

I think the error in your comment is assuming that if there is a "black capital", it has to be a place where blacks feel some connection to (that's what you inferred). I would say there are multiple large urban areas where blacks feel drawn to (as I stated earlier), but I don't think any of those areas are always in the black consciousness overall. It's always about location...
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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No, what I'm saying is that I don't think or hear about NY or ATL everyday, which is what you said...

For starters, in California, where over 2.1 million b lk acks reside, you very rarely hear about NY, period. Atlanta has more importance to black Californians, but we don't hear about Atlanta everyday, either...

In Virginia, I would say we hear about NY more, but not all the time. In NC, it really depends where you are, you hear about both pretty equally and regularly, but you aren't consumed with either...

I think the error in your comment is assuming that if there is a "black capital", it has to be a place where blacks feel some connection to (that's what you inferred). I would say there are multiple large urban areas where blacks feel drawn to (as I stated earlier), but I don't think any of those areas are always in the black consciousness overall. It's always about location...
i happen to be listening to a calypso radio station yesterday but they have a throwback rap show on sundays. they happen to play an old bad boy song where they big-up harlam.
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:27 AM
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i happen to be listening to a calypso radio station yesterday but they have a throwback rap show on sundays. they happen to play an old bad boy song where they big-up harlam.
Okay? Lol the throwback hip hop stations in California are extraordinarily West Coast centric and you may never hear a throwback NY record...
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:44 AM
 
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^ c'est vrai.
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