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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.34%
Phil 17 1.78%
DC 93 9.74%
Atlanta 558 58.43%
Memphis 10 1.05%
New ORleans 24 2.51%
Houston 16 1.68%
Seattle 10 1.05%
Chicago 26 2.72%
Detroit 66 6.91%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.05%
There is none. 74 7.75%
Voters: 955. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-29-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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Lol, nah you haven't lost your Black card. Honestly football classics aren't quite as well known as homecomings overall as they tend to be more local/regional events and played on neutral ground, but Magic City Classic and Bayou Classic are exceptions, especially when it comes to attendance at the actual games themselves--which is the actual highlight. For homecomings, the football game is just one of several events and is played on campus.

Morehouse and Spelman, as sibling institutions, always hold their homecomings on the same weekend which makes sense when you think about the sporting and social events homecomings are known for.

As for Black Northerners, I guess y'all have Lincoln and Cheney in PA and Wilberforce in OH but I don't have a clue how well-attended their homecomings are. Howard's is gonna be as close and good as it gets for the Northeast and Morgan's homecoming in Baltimore is pretty solid. Delaware State is up that way but I don't know much about them. I don't know what to say to the Black Midwesterners lol.
They go to Wilberforce or Central State across the street. There is also Harris-Stowe in St. Louis and Lincoln University in Jefferson City MO. Harris-Stowe State University: HSSU 2018 HOMECOMING SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

https://www.lincolnu.edu/web/homecoming/homecoming

NYC used to have the Urban League Football Classic and Indianapolis has the Circle City Classic. http://www.circlecityclassic.com

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Old 10-29-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Now I wouldn't go THAT far. FAMU, NC A&T, and SpelHouse homecomings are just as big as Howard's or maybe even bigger some years. Howard's is in the top tier no doubt but there's hardly a consensus that it's *the* largest. And although it's not a homecoming, you can't discount Magic City Classic which draws pretty big crowds.
Are we talking about the amount of events going on across the cities? If so, what city has more events, parties, clubs etc. etc. going on compared to DC during Howard's homecoming? What city being discussed even has as many clubs, bars, or nightlife districts to compare to DC for an event like this? Almost every club in D.C. has an event during Howard's homecoming.
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Old 10-29-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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From my understanding talking to people thatís been to The Bayou Classic, New Orleans is also like this. In fact, this was the event people in that part of the country went to. Plenty of parties in a city that parties harder than DC leading up to this game. Now I donít know if its fair and all to compare a game to homecoming. But NO Iíve heard is pretty wild during that weekend. I donít know about atlanta, though.
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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Are we talking about the amount of events going on across the cities? If so, what city has more events, parties, clubs etc. etc. going on compared to DC during Howard's homecoming? What city being discussed even has as many clubs, bars, or nightlife districts to compare to DC for an event like this? Almost every club in D.C. has an event during Howard's homecoming.
You said "largest" so I thought you were referring to attendance figures.
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:48 PM
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Location: Virginia Beach
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This board is hilarious; brothers always think that where they live has the only stuff going on lmao...

There are places you go where nobody black even knows about Howard homecoming. It is one of the more esteemed, but I think East Coasters in general have an inflated sense of importance. Some of the recent comments in respect to Howard homecoming attest to this...

There are multiple black urban centers, I wouldn't say "capital". But there isn't just one or two, and all of them offer variants of much of the same thing...
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: South Austin, 78745
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I ask in all sincerity and no sarcasm, but was Seattle included in this poll as a joke?

Also asking in all sincerity and no sarcasm, if it was not included as a joke, why Seattle and not Salt Lake City, Boise or Minneapolis?
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Old 10-29-2018, 04:56 PM
 
Location: South Austin, 78745
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i wonder what the capital of white america is?
Fargo
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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From my understanding talking to people that’s been to The Bayou Classic, New Orleans is also like this. In fact, this was the event people in that part of the country went to. Plenty of parties in a city that parties harder than DC leading up to this game. Now I don’t know if its fair and all to compare a game to homecoming. But NO I’ve heard is pretty wild during that weekend. I don’t know about atlanta, though.
New Orleans does not have more clubs and bars than DC. Clubs and bars in downtown DC, to U street, to 14th street, to Ivy City/New City, to H Street were full of Howard Homecoming events. New Orleans parties harder than DC, but doesn’t have the amount of venues DC does. DC is just way more urban and developed with nightlife districts and venues across the city.
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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New Orleans does not have more clubs and bars than DC. Clubs and bars in downtown DC, to U street, to 14th street, to Ivy City/New City, to H Street were full of Howard Homecoming events. New Orleans parties harder than DC, but doesn’t have the amount of venues DC does. DC is just way more urban and developed with nightlife districts and venues across the city.
Yeah that wasn’t my point. I’m not comparing the amount of venues of NO to DC. I am saying that what New Orleans has along with its perception of being a party city coupled with this particular event is one of the most vibrant black events every year. It’s what many in that region look forward to every year. Tbh, I lived in Chicago, Miami, and Texas. Howard homecoming is simply not on the radar in these places so murksiderock is right on point regarding that. As I looked it up, over 100k people attended the Howard homecoming weekend every year compared to 250k attending the Bayou classic each year.
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Old 10-30-2018, 08:05 AM
 
Location: DMV Area
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No, what I'm saying is that I don't think or hear about NY or ATL everyday, which is what you said...

For starters, in California, where over 2.1 million b lk acks reside, you very rarely hear about NY, period. Atlanta has more importance to black Californians, but we don't hear about Atlanta everyday, either...

In Virginia, I would say we hear about NY more, but not all the time. In NC, it really depends where you are, you hear about both pretty equally and regularly, but you aren't consumed with either...

I think the error in your comment is assuming that if there is a "black capital", it has to be a place where blacks feel some connection to (that's what you inferred). I would say there are multiple large urban areas where blacks feel drawn to (as I stated earlier), but I don't think any of those areas are always in the black consciousness overall. It's always about location...
I agree with you about multiple centers. When I lived in LA, I noticed Houston and Dallas seemed to have more importance to Black Californians with Atlanta being a distant third (Black Angelenos would often regard Atlanta with mild curiosity at best, indifference at the worst when I told them I moved to LA from there). When I lived in Atlanta, the connections between there and black people from NYC, Philly, and Detroit (straight shot up Interstate 75) were far more pronounced than connections with black people from Los Angeles or Oakland.

The DMV area is a bit more complicated because of the transient population here, the fact that it's considered a mecca/capital of Black America to a lot of people, and attracts a lot of people from other Black Capitals. I know a lot of black transplants from Atlanta (don't get me started on the whole ATL vs. DC debate that a lot of buppies love to engage in), Detroit, Chicago, NYC, Philly, and Houston. DC definitely gets a lot of recognition from Black folks from the Carolinas and Southside Virginia, but I will say that DC's appeal seems to pull from far more metro areas than ATL in a broad sense, but deep southerners don't really care for it.

Also, I lived in Mississippi, and the ties between there and Chicago were the most pronounced for a northern city while Detroit was a distant second. As for southern "capitals", coastal black Mississippians seemed to prefer Houston, while Dallas was more popular with Central Mississippians, and Atlanta had a universal pull, but Mississippi is definitely the transition zone in the south between the Southeast and the Western South (TX/OK/LA) with a lot of influences from both regions colliding there.

Obviously, a lot of these patterns are holdovers from the Great Migration in the mid-20th century.
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