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can you please restate this, i'm on dogz not trying to sound condescending but i'm not understanding this and i wanna' have a discussion (sometimes in writing you miss meaning that would be picked up in tone of voice).
i guess if i were to take a stab at it: my parents and parents' pareents and parents' parents' parents' ... have probably been in north america since the 1790's too so we are still neighbors (haïti is only like 500 miles from florida). i feel like the capital of black america should be inclusive of all black americans and not just african-americans (though they are the majority).
You see i think that's where the confusion lies in terminology. Due to America's unyielding use of "Race" and not " Ethnicity " ( another topic) , most people will see Black Capital as in Black/African American not the Umbrella category of Black ( which includes Black Hispanics, Afro Carribeans, Afro Canadians, African Nationalities ). As you stated Black Americans are the predominant group under that category around 97% and thus the main representation of that category. This returns to my eairlier post about the de facto capital will have to be southern base ( with no disrespect towards other ethnicities under the Black label and non southern cities).
fair enuff. but this is the post i was originally quoting:
i was being half facetious is my response meaning that theres a significant black population whose ancestry doesnt originate from the southern u.s. who are still black. not a big deal but i like to point it out when there is an opportunity.
As`you should.
All people over the African diaspora have contributed to America,
It should be pointed out but we do have to acknowledge that foundation was born more recent for some more than others who have a more direct connection to an actual country with their own customs and traditions .
It doesnt diminish the contributions to the betterment of American society it just adds to the richness of the African American experience for those who had no connection to there ancestral lands .
A good example of "Soul Food" now a days will include oxtails and Curry Goat in even some deep South towns.
can you please restate this, i'm on dogz not trying to sound condescending but i'm not understanding this and i wanna' have a discussion (sometimes in writing you miss meaning that would be picked up in tone of voice).
i guess if i were to take a stab at it: my parents and parents' pareents and parents' parents' parents' ... have probably been in north america since the 1790's too so we are still neighbors (haïti is only like 500 miles from florida). i feel like the capital of black america should be inclusive of all black americans and not just african-americans (though they are the majority).
I just mean that how can you have a culture created in one country and not acknowledge where it came from?
It gets kinda hazy as we all come from Africa and certain things dating back centuries have manifested based on what part of the world we were sent to.The use of local foods and crafts changed due to environment. So American blacks my have developed somethings that are similar to Jamaicans or Haitians but all African people have roots in Africa but traditions changed depending in the location..
Even then, in places like New Orleans ,Haitians have been there since it was owned by the French so in the case of Haiti ,its more complicated it has been fundamental in creating elements of black culture in that area where its not like other Caribbean or African countries came much later in mass.
So I get what you are saying,other than Haiti,the Caribbean and African culture came form those places which was brought here,bot created here.I mean contributions like advancement in things like culture is not the same when you are talking about more educated matters and contributions to society other than culture as best as I can word what Im trying to convey at 4am.lol
You see i think that's where the confusion lies in terminology. Due to America's unyielding use of "Race" and not " Ethnicity " ( another topic) , most people will see Black Capital as in Black/African American not the Umbrella category of Black ( which includes Black Hispanics, Afro Carribeans, Afro Canadians, African Nationalities ). As you stated Black Americans are the predominant group under that category around 97% and thus the main representation of that category. This returns to my eairlier post about the de facto capital will have to be southern base ( with no disrespect towards other ethnicities under the Black label and non southern cities).
cool, we are on the same page. but i think we represent far more than just 3 %. i think its closer to 50 %/50 % at this point (facts-kill-rhetoric ?) ?
cool, we are on the same page. but i think we represent far more than just 3 %. i think its closer to 50 %/50 % at this point (facts-kill-rhetoric ?) ?
You probably think that base on the city your living in but Carribeans, Hispanic, Africans, etc aren't nowhere near the same population size as Blacks. It's the geographic distrubution of their populations is centered around large cities. Especially NYC.
You probably think that base on the city your living in but Carribeans, Hispanic, Africans, etc aren't nowhere near the same population size as Blacks. It's the geographic distrubution of their populations is centered around large cities. Especially NYC.
cool, we are on the same page. but i think we represent far more than just 3 %. i think its closer to 50 %/50 % at this point (facts-kill-rhetoric ?) ?
I think its more than 3% but I dont think its anywhere near 50%.In some of the largest cities sure but across the south in states like Mississippi, Carolinas,Tennesee,Georgia and throughout much of the South its overwhelming over 80% for sure "native" African American
I think its more than 3% but I dont think its anywhere near 50%.In some of the largest cities sure but across the south in states like Mississippi, Carolinas,Tennesee,Georgia and throughout much of the South its overwhelming over 80% for sure "native" African American
It could be 4-5% now but it's not large in the nationwide sense.
cool, we are on the same page. but i think we represent far more than just 3 %. i think its closer to 50 %/50 % at this point (facts-kill-rhetoric ?) ?
Absolutely not. Non AA black people are maybe 10% of the total black American population. You just live in Boston to say this. Even New York and Miami is still majority AA.
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