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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.34%
Phil 17 1.78%
DC 93 9.74%
Atlanta 558 58.43%
Memphis 10 1.05%
New ORleans 24 2.51%
Houston 16 1.68%
Seattle 10 1.05%
Chicago 26 2.72%
Detroit 66 6.91%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.05%
There is none. 74 7.75%
Voters: 955. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-18-2019, 04:04 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Atlanta, GA
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:13 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Itís way too segregated for me to feel like itís the black Capitol.


Atlanta, from my experience, feels like a much, much blacker city and overall more integrated. DC feels very segregated, and for the areas that are gentrifying, it feels not so much as integration, rather, pushing black folk out.


Im not black so Iím not sure if that makes my perception different. But thatís my personal experience.
Your assessment is about right regarding ATL and DC.
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Old 01-18-2019, 07:11 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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It’s way too segregated for me to feel like it’s the black Capitol.


Atlanta, from my experience, feels like a much, much blacker city and overall more integrated. DC feels very segregated, and for the areas that are gentrifying, it feels not so much as integration, rather, pushing black folk out.


Im not black so I’m not sure if that makes my perception different. But that’s my personal experience.
in d.c.'s defense, all of the bos-wash is among the least integrated in the country.
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Old 01-18-2019, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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in d.c.'s defense, all of the bos-wash is among the least integrated in the country.
Why is it the least integrated?
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:01 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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Oakland's not even on the list.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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Why is it the least integrated?
historical red-lining.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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I guess Atlanta by default
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:17 AM
 
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Why is it the least integrated?
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historical red-lining.
in 2013 the atlantic did a heat map of most segregated cities. chicago was #1; iirc, n.y.c. was #4, bos was #6, philly ~ #8, washington, d.c. ~ #9 or something.

i remember being astonished that the liberal north was actually less integrated than the confederate south.

(of course with gentrification in the last 5 years those maps are different geographically; although, still tell the same story).

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Old 01-22-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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historical red-lining.
This is incorrect. It is based on cultural differences regarding value. Black people in general place more value on space (more house for your money) while white people generally place more value on location and amenities when talking about city living.

This is why white people will pay to live in a small studio or 1-bedroom apartment right in the center of everything above a trendy coffee shop or restaurant for the same amount of money that it would cost them to live in a large 3-bedroom home in the suburbs. Black people, on the other hand, would generally rather live in the 3-bedroom home than pay the same amount for a studio in a trendy neighborhood.

That is why black people are moving away from inner city neighborhoods. It's not that they can't afford to live there. They don't think it's worth paying that much money to live there when they could get more for their money.

Personally, I think its sad because black people always seem to be a day late and a dollar short. We owned all these homes in the cities across the nation and then developers came in offering us cash for our homes and we sold instead of keeping our homes. Now, many people have moved to the suburbs and bought large houses that won't be worth anything in the future as they age while homes in the city will continue to skyrocket in value as everyone now wants to get back into the city.
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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This is incorrect. It is based on cultural differences regarding value. Black people in general place more value on space (more house for your money) while white people generally place more value on location and amenities when talking about city living.

This is why white people will pay to live in a small studio or 1-bedroom apartment right in the center of everything above a trendy coffee shop or restaurant for the same amount of money that it would cost them to live in a large 3-bedroom home in the suburbs. Black people, on the other hand, would generally rather live in the 3-bedroom home than pay the same amount for a studio in a trendy neighborhood.

That is why black people are moving away from inner city neighborhoods. It's not that they can't afford to live there. They don't think it's worth paying that much money to live there when they could get more for their money.

Personally, I think its sad because black people always seem to be a day late and a dollar short. We owned all these homes in the cities across the nation and then developers came in offering us cash for our homes and we sold instead of keeping our homes. Now, many people have moved to the suburbs and bought large houses that won't be worth anything in the future as they age while homes in the city will continue to skyrocket in value as everyone now wants to get back into the city.
That's not completely incorrect on redlining ( still active today in a different fashion) and not all Black are moving for the reason you spoke on entirely. It's COL along with individual choices. Some of the working class and up Blacks will remain in the city , others will not. If you haven't notice it's almost equal amount in a metro city's proper & surburbs ( including exurbs).
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