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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.17%
Phil 17 1.72%
DC 96 9.74%
Atlanta 580 58.82%
Memphis 11 1.12%
New ORleans 25 2.54%
Houston 17 1.72%
Seattle 11 1.12%
Chicago 27 2.74%
Detroit 66 6.69%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.01%
There is none. 75 7.61%
Voters: 986. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-07-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Charlotte485 View Post
In 1980, DC was 27% White, 71% Black.


In 2000: 30% / 60%

2010: 40% / 51%

2017: 45% / 47%


Obviously a city doesn’t have to be majority black to be the black capital. But at least in the Western portions of DC and increasingly other parts of SE north of the Anacostia, I feel like it’s got way more white tourist than African American tourist. West of Capitol street, it’s hard to imagine DC as the capital of Black America.

Also. With such rapid increase of the white population and decreasing of the black population and the gentrification turning former AA dominated neighborhoods by wide margins to white neighborhoods by a white margin, what does that say about DC being a “black capital”?


Atlanta, at least under my impression, doesn’t seem to have such a problem with black people being priced out, being geographically isolated by physical barrier (Eg, Anacostia River). Maybe ATL does have that same problem, but it’s not My (uneducated) opinion that it does.


My perception of DC has been shaped of the last year of living here. What it used to be - I don’t know. Spending most of my time in SW (north of the Anacostia), Navy Yard, Eastern Market/Capitol Hill and pretty much everything west of Capitol and NoMa. It seems predominately white. Especially compared to ATL. I realize obviously I spend my time in the “whiter” areas. But, sadly, those are the safer, nicer areas with the most amenities.
From the US Census
US Census Fact Finder

2010 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 319,177
White Alone = 262,139

2017 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 338,623
White Alone = 328,231

2010-2017 DC Population (White vs. Black) Difference

Black Alone = +19,446 people
White Alone = +66,092 people


People seem to always come up with opinions when facts are readily available. DC is not losing black people. DC is gaining black people. DC is just gaining more white people per month than black people. We can sum this up with one phase....DC IS BOOMING!

If I build 100 buildings on empty lots and fill them with new residents, the population is going to grow. I don't understand why this concept is lost on everyone from the media to the guy on the street.

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Old 03-07-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar View Post
From the US Census
US Census Fact Finder

2010 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 319,177
White Alone = 262,139

2017 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 338,623
White Alone = 328,231

2010-2017 DC Population (White vs. Black) Difference

Black Alone = +19,446 people
White Alone = +66,092 people


People seem to always come up with opinions when facts are readily available. DC is not losing black people. DC is gaining black people. DC is just gaining more white people per month than black people. We can sum this up with one phase....DC IS BOOMING!

If I build 100 buildings on empty lots and fill them with new residents, the population is going to grow. I don't understand why this concept is lost on everyone from the media to the guy on the street.
And to compare to Atlanta:
US Fact Finder

2010 ATL Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 224,670
White Alone = 157,896

2017 ATL Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 243,285
White Alone = 186,447

2010-2017 ATL Population (White vs. Black) Difference

Black Alone = +18,615 people
White Alone = +28,551 people


So DC proper in 61 sq. miles added more black people (+19,446) than Atlanta proper in 133 sq. miles (+18,615) contrary to popular belief. The difference is, DC is building way more in the city and growing way faster in the city than Atlanta.
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Old 03-07-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar View Post
And to compare to Atlanta:
US Fact Finder

2010 ATL Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 224,670
White Alone = 157,896

2017 ATL Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 243,285
White Alone = 186,447

2010-2017 ATL Population (White vs. Black) Difference

Black Alone = +18,615 people
White Alone = +28,551 people


So DC proper in 61 sq. miles added more black people (+19,446) than Atlanta proper in 133 sq. miles (+18,615) contrary to popular belief. The difference is, DC is building way more in the city and growing way faster in the city than Atlanta.
Not sure what this is supposed to be pointing out. The city population of D.C was already significantly greater than Atlanta and D.C. proper is world's apart from Atlanta in density.
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Old 03-07-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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Not sure what this is supposed to be pointing out. The city population of D.C was already significantly greater than Atlanta and D.C. proper is world's apart from Atlanta in density.
It was in response to this post below:


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Originally Posted by Charlotte485 View Post
In 1980, DC was 27% White, 71% Black.


In 2000: 30% / 60%

2010: 40% / 51%

2017: 45% / 47%


Obviously a city doesn’t have to be majority black to be the black capital. But at least in the Western portions of DC and increasingly other parts of SE north of the Anacostia, I feel like it’s got way more white tourist than African American tourist. West of Capitol street, it’s hard to imagine DC as the capital of Black America.

Also. With such rapid increase of the white population and decreasing of the black population and the gentrification turning former AA dominated neighborhoods by wide margins to white neighborhoods by a white margin, what does that say about DC being a “black capital”?


Atlanta, at least under my impression, doesn’t seem to have such a problem with black people being priced out, being geographically isolated by physical barrier (Eg, Anacostia River). Maybe ATL does have that same problem, but it’s not My (uneducated) opinion that it does.



My perception of DC has been shaped of the last year of living here. What it used to be - I don’t know. Spending most of my time in SW (north of the Anacostia), Navy Yard, Eastern Market/Capitol Hill and pretty much everything west of Capitol and NoMa. It seems predominately white. Especially compared to ATL. I realize obviously I spend my time in the “whiter” areas. But, sadly, those are the safer, nicer areas with the most amenities.
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Old 03-07-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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So DC proper in 61 sq. miles added more black people (+19,446) than Atlanta proper in 133 sq. miles (+18,615) contrary to popular belief.
Don't mistake one poster's opinion here for popular belief. It's not like these stats are common knowledge anyway.
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Old 03-07-2019, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar View Post
From the US Census
US Census Fact Finder

2010 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 319,177
White Alone = 262,139

2017 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 338,623
White Alone = 328,231

2010-2017 DC Population (White vs. Black) Difference

Black Alone = +19,446 people
White Alone = +66,092 people


People seem to always come up with opinions when facts are readily available. DC is not losing black people. DC is gaining black people. DC is just gaining more white people per month than black people. We can sum this up with one phase....DC IS BOOMING!

If I build 100 buildings on empty lots and fill them with new residents, the population is going to grow. I don't understand why this concept is lost on everyone from the media to the guy on the street.


To be fair, there are a lot of articles lamenting people being pushed out of their neighborhoods as gentrification takes over. Glad that's just hype.
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Old 03-07-2019, 03:33 PM
 
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To be fair, there are a lot of articles lamenting people being pushed out of their neighborhoods as gentrification takes over. Glad that's just hype.
That's not hype; it certainly happens. But it also just so happens that DC has some Black gentrifiers in the mix too.
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Old 03-08-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar View Post
And to compare to Atlanta:
US Fact Finder

2010 ATL Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 224,670
White Alone = 157,896

2017 ATL Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 243,285
White Alone = 186,447

2010-2017 ATL Population (White vs. Black) Difference

Black Alone = +18,615 people
White Alone = +28,551 people


So DC proper in 61 sq. miles added more black people (+19,446) than Atlanta proper in 133 sq. miles (+18,615) contrary to popular belief. The difference is, DC is building way more in the city and growing way faster in the city than Atlanta.
Historically and even now DC's black community have generally been larger than Atlanta's black community. Matter of fact, DC had the largest black community in the U.S from 1880 to 1920.
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Old 03-08-2019, 06:50 PM
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Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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Does anybody think the vote total in the OP poll for Atlanta is a bit suspicious ?
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Does anybody think the vote total in the OP poll for Atlanta is a bit suspicious ?
no. because many black people do feel that Atlanta truly is the capital of Black America. Especially in todays time.
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