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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 66 4.89%
Phil 25 1.85%
DC 121 8.96%
Atlanta 807 59.78%
Memphis 21 1.56%
New ORleans 33 2.44%
Houston 29 2.15%
Seattle 14 1.04%
Chicago 35 2.59%
Detroit 84 6.22%
Other (include in your reply) 14 1.04%
There is none. 101 7.48%
Voters: 1350. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-11-2019, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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That's funny. Most of those neighborhoods have walk scores in the 50s and 60s. You'll see more people walking in Los Angeles than you'll see walking there.
We don't need to start on walkscore. We already know that poor black areas don't have basic retail amenities in most neighborhoods which drops the walkscore. Walkscore doesn't actually measure urban design. It will be interesting to see how the score changes with all the development in Ward 7 and 8 going on right now. Food deserts are a problem in most black neighborhoods.
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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V Street Southeast
Anacostia, Washington D.C., 20020

70
"Very Walkable"
Most errands can be accomplished on foot.



https://www.walkscore.com/score/1239...ngton-dc-20020
You put in a specific address, which produces a lot more variance in Walk Score. Even then, 70 isn't good. In fact, that is considerably worse than many areas of "suburban" and car-centric Los Angeles such as San Pedro (81), Atwater Village (74) and West Adams (72). Overall, Anacostia has a walk score of 64, which would make it the 56th most walkable neighborhood in LA.
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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You put in a specific address, which produces a lot more variance in Walk Score. Even then, 70 isn't good. In fact, that is considerably worse than many areas of "suburban" and car-centric Los Angeles such as San Pedro (81), Atwater Village (74) and West Adams (72). Overall, Anacostia has a walk score of 64, which would make it the 56th most walkable neighborhood in LA.
Anacostia is not in the top 40+ walkable neighborhoods in DC either, what's your point?
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Yeah, but if you're going to an "event" like you said, why does that matter? I'm not really having much of an "urban experience" if I'm driving in, parking, and then walking into a building. That's no different from what I'd be doing in Charlotte.
No, that is not accurate. If I go to brunch, then uber to a day party on Sunday funday in DC, the streets are packed with people. There is no place in the sunbelt cities that is going to be packed with people walking around the city like DC is. The streets have always been empty when I'm in Atlanta even though the parties are packed and there is traffic. It looks nothing like 14th street on a Sunday. Personally, I enjoy the vibrancy and packed streets.
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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We don't need to start on walkscore. We already know that poor black areas don't have basic retail amenities in most neighborhoods which drops the walkscore. Walkscore doesn't actually measure urban design. It will be interesting to see how the score changes with all the development in Ward 7 and 8 going on right now. Food deserts are a problem in most black neighborhoods.
Harlem has a walk score of 97. Brownsville, Brooklyn has a 92. East New York, Brooklyn has an 85. Kensington (N. Philly) has a walk score of 90. Even Nicetown in N. Philly has an 83 walk score. Bronzeville has a 74 score. South Central LA has an 82. Bayview (San Francisco) has an 82 walk score and that's a very deprived area.

Anacostia's low walk score isn't because it's poor. It's mostly because it isn't that vibrant or walkable.
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:00 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Harlem has a walk score of 97. Brownsville, Brooklyn has a 92. East New York, Brooklyn has an 85. Kensington (N. Philly) has a walk score of 90. Even Nicetown in N. Philly has an 83 walk score. Bronzeville has a 74 score. South Central LA has an 82. Bayview (San Francisco) has an 82 walk score and that's a very deprived area.

Anacostia's low walk score isn't because it's poor. It's mostly because it isn't that vibrant or walkable.
All those places you named are on a perfect grid for the most part other than Anacostia. You cannot compare those perfect grid neighborhoods to Anacostia directly. Shaw, or Columbia Heights etc is comparable, because it shares that same type of grid structure.
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Harlem has a walk score of 97. Brownsville, Brooklyn has a 92. East New York, Brooklyn has an 85. Kensington (N. Philly) has a walk score of 90. Even Nicetown in N. Philly has an 83 walk score. Bronzeville has a 74 score. South Central LA has an 82. Bayview (San Francisco) has an 82 walk score and that's a very deprived area.

Anacostia's low walk score isn't because it's poor. It's mostly because it isn't that vibrant or walkable.
No, its because of zoning which didn't permit many commercial retail corridors and crime which drove the people with income away. Now, DC has changed all that and retail is coming back in a major way which you already know I'm sure.

All the new buildings have retail and a critical mass is moving forward across Ward 7 and Ward 8. We can come back to this discussion at a later date once everything gets built. Busboy's and Poets opens tomorrow in Anacostia by the way. Eatonville is supposed to open in Skyland. There is a lot happening in Ward 7 and Ward 8.
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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All those places you named are on a perfect grid for the most part other than Anacostia. You cannot compare those perfect grid neighborhoods to Anacostia directly. Shaw, or Columbia Heights etc is comparable, because it shares that same type of grid structure.
Mattapan (Boston) has an 82 walk score. You guys have all kinds of excuses.
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Mattapan (Boston) has an 82 walk score. You guys have all kinds of excuses.
I don't think it has anything to do with the grid, I think its disinvestment. You lived in DC, you know all those abandoned homes and vacant store fronts all over Ward 7 and Ward 8. Now, they are building highrises in those areas so things are changing.
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