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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.31%
Phil 17 1.77%
DC 94 9.78%
Atlanta 561 58.38%
Memphis 10 1.04%
New ORleans 24 2.50%
Houston 17 1.77%
Seattle 11 1.14%
Chicago 26 2.71%
Detroit 66 6.87%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.04%
There is none. 74 7.70%
Voters: 961. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-18-2019, 08:05 AM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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Yeah this post makes no sense, maybe he was saying Los Angeles overall population has more people than Atlanta and Miami combined still has zero relevance to the black population since Atlanta has more than twice as many blacks than L.A. does and a far higher percentage.
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I consider black capitals to be places where blacks live , where money matters more than race

1) wall street For Black America is Philadelphia and Dc combined

2) hollywood For Black America is Atlanta and Miami Combined
my interpretation.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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Do you have proof of that statement about Miamiís black population?
A relatively recent and interesting list: https://blackdemographics.com/popula...ty-population/

I think a lot of it has to do with the big Caribbean presence in the Miami area, but like some other places, I think the African American population in the area gets underestimated.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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A relatively recent and interesting list: https://blackdemographics.com/popula...ty-population/

I think a lot of it has to do with the big Caribbean presence in the Miami area, but like some other places, I think the African American population in the area gets underestimated.
It absolutely does. Plenty of Black Americans in South Florida. Always has been and people want to erase that.
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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The first post isn't clear about whether it's city proper or metropolitan area but that became clear as the thread went on. I'm not sure why you want to be obtuse about this. Do you actually think it makes sense to discuss this topic and exclude suburban areas like PG and DeKalb counties and the "Best Southwest" in metro Dallas? Like seriously???
I'm back.

No if the conversation excludes metropolitan talk.
Yes, if the focus is strictly city proper.
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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He's being obtuse about it because he keeps trying use selective statistics to push this false narrative that Houston is the blackest city or has the highest black population in the south. He can only do that by only considering the defined city limits since Houston proper is already the largest city in the South. Has nothing to do with it being blacker, there are just far more people in its city limits than all of the other Southern cities period.

As far as there being multiple capitals, of course there are multiple cities that have qualities and significance enough to be a black capital, but the point of this thread or any discussion like this is which ONE city most exemplifies the qualities and characteristics to be considered a black capital. The Root did a poll like this recently for black history month for which city is the blackest in America and Atlanta came out on top. Most polls like this Atlanta is usually going to come out on top but I do agree you can't really pick one city that represents the diversity of the black population.

https://www.theroot.com/bad-and-bouj...bla-1833042949
LoL, smh. You seem to let a historical fun fact go over your head. I said it in a historical sense and that ATL' s black commumity was larger prior to Houston's ( city proper wise).

If one will be chosen then I'll pick D.C for the De Facto Capital
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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metro (better necta) makes more sense than city arbitrary boundarys.
i know boston (48 square miles). talking about boston in terms of a vacuum makes no sense due to new englands anti-annexation laws.

e.g. - somerville used to be a part of charlestown but has since separated into its own city; eventhough, charlestown is still technically within the boundary of the city of boston. about the same time new york city built the biggest suspension bridge connecting the city of brooklyn. the next year n.y.c. annexed brooklyn, and then bronx, and then queens, and then staten island (303 square miles).
since 1990 l.a. has made 7 annexations (the latest was in 2015). are you saying that when this thread started certain sections of metro l.a. cannot be considered but now because an imaginary line has been redrawn they are now magically pertinent.

do you honestly believe some random farm land within the political border of jacksonville, fl (747 square miles) is more pertinent to city culture than most of eastern mass. there are probably more t stations in cambridge, somerville, brookline, quincy, ... than within the borders of boston.
To put it bluntly, I prefer city proper over metro. Simple enough.
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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No matter how you look at it is, itís still metro areas that we are discussing. Just look at the metro areas now, bro.

I actually kinda like your list. I think Atlantaís boundaries need to be expanded to include a lot of the Southeast. Houstonís should be expanded to include a lot of Louisiana.
Bro, I just prefer city proper over metro.

Southeast= ATL
MidSouth= Memphis
Southwest= Houston
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Old 03-20-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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I'm back.

No if the conversation excludes metropolitan talk.
Yes, if the focus is strictly city proper.
The focus here is not strictly on city proper and given the history of Black folks in America, it wouldn't make sense. We were only granted full legal rights to totally participate in America's social and political life in the 60's and 70's, and by that time we were already a fully-fledged suburban nation. When Blacks were given choices about where we could live and prosper and raise families, by and large we headed for the suburbs along with the rest of America. That's why, with few exceptions, the vast majority of our better neighborhoods are found in suburbia. So to be overly technical and focus only on city proper when it comes to this topic simply misses the mark and does a huge disservice to this important subject overall.

And that's why you're wrong to focus on city limits only when it comes to the topic under discussion. It has absolutely nothing to do with your personal preference.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:11 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I'm back.

No if the conversation excludes metropolitan talk.
Yes, if the focus is strictly city proper.
PG is bigger than DC proper as is DeKalb to Atlanta proper. I have no idea how you simply separate either one of them. They are both essential to their respective metro areas. City boundaries are merely arbitrary now a days. More people live in PG and DeKalb and that matters.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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The focus here is not strictly on city proper and given the history of Black folks in America, it wouldn't make sense. We were only granted full legal rights to totally participate in America's social and political life in the 60's and 70's, and by that time we were already a fully-fledged suburban nation. When Blacks were given choices about where we could live and prosper and raise families, by and large we headed for the suburbs along with the rest of America. That's why, with few exceptions, the vast majority of our better neighborhoods are found in suburbia. So to be overly technical and focus only on city proper when it comes to this topic simply misses the mark and does a huge disservice to this important subject overall.

And that's why you're wrong to focus on city limits only when it comes to the topic under discussion. It has absolutely nothing to do with your personal preference.
I'm a fan of Black history/culture ( I'm Black,
) & geography i will say that you have hits & miss in your statements. The history of our culture, like the rest of the country at that point, was predominantly rural. It wasn't until the great migration we switched to a urban populous. Back then it was the cities proper with a few surburbs communities. The degree of social & political life goes farther back then the 60s, i know you mean FULL legal rights, all the way to reconstruction. Our social life had & still will be parallel to mainstream america. We weren't and still not a full fledge surburban populus (34-36% of our community lives in the surburbs) . We can debate if the majority of our better neighborhoods in the burbs. Bring forth the stats.

I'm wrong to focus on city proper since everyone else is focus on metropolitan areas. I agree.
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