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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.20%
Phil 17 1.73%
DC 96 9.79%
Atlanta 577 58.82%
Memphis 11 1.12%
New ORleans 25 2.55%
Houston 17 1.73%
Seattle 11 1.12%
Chicago 26 2.65%
Detroit 66 6.73%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.02%
There is none. 74 7.54%
Voters: 981. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-01-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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OK, just stop with the whole "have you actually visited these cities?" mantra. I live in metro Atlanta and have visited DC countless times, so I'm not talking out of the side of my neck here. And please stop deflecting. I said nothing about the city proper because the vast majority of Blacks in both metros live in the suburbs. And once again, you're grossly exaggerating the differences between both cities.

"Black gentrification"? It's practically a trickle in both cities compared to White gentrification and you know that.

The income gap between whites and blacks living in the District is one of the widest in the country, new census statistics show. That stands in stark contrast to the Washington suburbs, where the gaps have become some of the nationís narrowest.

The per capita income for whites in the District is more than triple what it is for blacks, and the difference has only widened since 1990.


Income gap stays wide in District, narrows in suburbs - The Washington Post
So you think Atlanta city proper is urban by northeastern standards? Please show me what neighborhoods you are referring too. What does the fact that I said a black person that wants an urban lifestyle by northeastern standards in a black dominated city have to do with income level? We are talking about lifestyle options here. Everyone knows that the DMV and the Atlanta area are the two most popular cities for black people. Nobody is disputing that. The only point I made is the option to live an urban lifestyle by northeastern standards does not exist in Atlanta. The is all I ever said.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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Atlanta, then DC
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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I just can't.
I know Atlanta well and it looks like the south. When I said Midtown looks rural, I was talking about how sparse development is which is common in most sunbelt cities. It's what I said when I was in Midtown all the time. It is what it is. Scattered skyscrapers everywhere completely lacking an urban footprint like major cities in the Northeast where a couple hundred meters from urban buildings would never give way to this:


Midtown
atlanta ga - Google Maps

Midtown
atlanta ga - Google Maps

Midtown (Is that a billboard you would see on the highway in Alabama?)
atlanta ga - Google Maps

At the end of the day, Atlanta is just not built to be a dense city. The residents don't really desire for it to be a dense city either. The people I know in Atlanta think we live on top of each other in D.C. They think everything is very rushed up here in D.C. They like the way they live. They comment on how they need their car and like open space. They hate how inconvenient it is driving in D.C. You and many people on this forum from Atlanta are in the minority for liking dense urban living in a northeastern sense of the word. That is one of the reason's many people leave the cities up here. They want a cheaper, slower, lower density relaxed lifestyle. Are you trying to tell me that most of the people you encounter in Atlanta want it to be dense like the cities up here?

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Old 04-01-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Atlanta is considered the black capital but I dislike it I live here and can't wait to leave.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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I know D.C. well and it looks like Dixie to me. Call it northeast one more time and I may just vomit out of disgust
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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I know D.C. well and it looks like Dixie to me. Call it northeast one more time and I may just vomit out of disgust
Have you been to Atlanta? If D.C. is dixie, then Atlanta is the Grand Canyon.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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Have you been to Atlanta? If D.C. is dixie, then Atlanta is the Grand Canyon.
Ya been to Atlanta, its in the deep south. To much for my tastes
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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Ya been to Atlanta, its in the deep south. To much for my tastes
If your looking for New York anywhere else other than New York, you are not going to find it. New York runs circles around every city in the U.S. When it comes to urban form, Philadelphia, Boston, D.C., Baltimore, Chicago, and San Francisco are the only cities that have a true urban streetwall feel. If you think D.C. is dixie, you must think 99.9% of the nation is dixie.


You have never been down south or outside of New York City really if you think this looks like Dixie:

washington d.c. - Google Maps


Maybe you should actually visit Dixie to see what it's really like if you think D.C. is what Dixie looks like.
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:19 PM
 
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I know Atlanta well and it looks like the south. When I said Midtown looks rural, I was talking about how sparse development is which is common in most sunbelt cities. It's what I said when I was in Midtown all the time. It is what it is. Scattered skyscrapers everywhere completely lacking an urban footprint like major cities in the Northeast where a couple hundred meters from urban buildings would never give way to this:


Midtown
atlanta ga - Google Maps

Midtown
atlanta ga - Google Maps

Midtown (Is that a billboard you would see on the highway in Alabama?)
atlanta ga - Google Maps

At the end of the day, Atlanta is just not built to be a dense city. The residents don't really desire for it to be a dense city either. The people I know in Atlanta think we live on top of each other in D.C. They think everything is very rushed up here in D.C. They like the way they live. They comment on how they need their car and like open space. They hate how inconvenient it is driving in D.C. You and many people on this forum from Atlanta are in the minority for liking dense urban living in a northeastern sense of the word. That is one of the reason's many people leave the cities up here. They want a cheaper, slower, lower density relaxed lifestyle. Are you trying to tell me that most of the people you encounter in Atlanta want it to be dense like the cities up here?
Ummmmmm, excuse me?! You can find those billboards anywhere, not just in ALABAMA.
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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Ummmmmm, excuse me?! You can find those billboards anywhere, not just in ALABAMA.
My point had nothing to do with the State of Alabama, I was basically asking why a highway billboard is in the middle of the city and in the most popular urban style neighborhood Atlanta has to offer to boot.
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