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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 51 5.37%
Phil 17 1.79%
DC 93 9.79%
Atlanta 554 58.32%
Memphis 10 1.05%
New ORleans 24 2.53%
Houston 16 1.68%
Seattle 10 1.05%
Chicago 26 2.74%
Detroit 66 6.95%
Other (include in your reply) 10 1.05%
There is none. 73 7.68%
Voters: 950. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 04-01-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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If urbananity was such a big factor, then would not everyone flock to NYC or Chicago and skip DC altogether?
Or better yet, wouldn't most Blacks be moving into DC proper? They are instead opting for the suburbs and the Black residents of the District move to the suburbs once they have the opportunity to do so.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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Remember, this was about the combination of black power in a city with an urban environment. DC is the only place that offers both.
Actually it wasn't about that; that was some tangent you went off on. And DC is not the only place that offers both. Atlanta isn't as urban as DC but you can truly live in an urban environment in Atlanta. It's sad you're letting your dislike of the city get in the way of making a reasonable assessment.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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Actually it wasn't about that; that was some tangent you went off on. And DC is not the only place that offers both. Atlanta isn't as urban as DC but you can truly live in an urban environment in Atlanta. It's sad you're letting your dislike of the city get in the way of making a reasonable assessment.
And herein lies the problem. I never was talking about anybody but myself. How about you go back and show me where I referenced anybody other than myself preferring an urban environment and black professionals. That is the problem with information exchange. You were so upset about me saying Atlanta wasn't urban you applied what I was saying to other people. I said its the only place that offers that option. It doesn't mean that is why people choose to live in either city. When did I say it did? I said for someone who did care about that, DC is the only city that offers it. You need to go back and read what was said. What I said was never about why people are choosing areas. What I said was about what options each city offered in relation to the black social scene and urban living environment. I commented on the two cities and what I thought was an interesting way to look at them in relation to what I think are strengths or weaknesses for my lifestyle preference. When did I say what I like has to be other peoples preference?
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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Or better yet, wouldn't most Blacks be moving into DC proper? They are instead opting for the suburbs and the Black residents of the District move to the suburbs once they have the opportunity to do so.
When have I been talking about most black people in this entire thread? Im pretty sure I have been talking about what I like, not other people. I said if you are black and want an urban environment with a black powerful population, DC is at the top of the heap for both of those. DC offers the biggest balance of the two. Anyway, this conversation is pointless, so whatever. Everyone can enjoy where they live and people can be successful anywhere.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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To each his own. Also, on your point about skipping DC and going to Chicago or NYC, black people are an underclass in those cities compared to Atlanta and DC so that is out. Remember, this was about the combination of black power in a city with an urban environment. DC is the only place that offers both. Also, I spent a long time in the south and I don't really like the vibe in the south. It's just a personal preference. I thought it was country and slow. Just my opinion though. When people want to have kids and settle down, then Atlanta along with Raleigh, Charlotte, and Nashville are possible options offering a relaxed slow and family oriented lifestyle. Im not ready for that.
Atlanta (City) is nothing like the smaller Southern cities, nothing. And I've lived in Charlotte. The suburbs may be similar but DC's suburbs are also just that--Suburbs,
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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And herein lies the problem. I never was talking about anybody but myself. How about you go back and show me where I referenced anybody other than myself preferring an urban environment and black professionals. That is the problem with information exchange. You were so upset about me saying Atlanta wasn't urban you applied what I was saying to other people. I said its the only place that offers that option. It doesn't mean that is why people choose to live in either city. When did I say it did? I said for someone who did care about that, DC is the only city that offers it. You need to go back and read what was said. What I said was never about why people are choosing areas. What I said was about what options each city offered in relation to the black social scene and urban living environment. I commented on the two cities and what I thought was an interesting way to look at them in relation to what I think are strengths or weaknesses for my lifestyle preference. When did I say what I like has to be other peoples preference?
And you would be wrong on that point.

The issue is that some of us are actually trying to stay on topic since the subject of the thread is about Black America as opposed to just one individual's preference. And then you've thrown out tons of misinformation in the thread as well.

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When have I been talking about most black people in this entire thread? Im pretty sure I have been talking about what I like, not other people. I said if you are black and want an urban environment with a black powerful population, DC is at the top of the heap for both of those. DC offers the biggest balance of the two. Anyway, this conversation is pointless, so whatever. Everyone can enjoy where they live and people can be successful anywhere.
So is DC "at the top of the heap" and "offers the biggest balance" or is it the ONLY city that offers both as you've been saying throughout this thread? Now you seem to be changing your tune.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:05 PM
 
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Muntiny, after the last few posts, I am through debating with this guy. He sees things in a very skewed manner. All reason and logic has been cast aside to prove the superiority of DC in every caterogory. While I would not like to debate which city is the "capital of Black America" (cause I don't know), I think many cities might offers something for any African-Americans. And Atlanta is of course is considered one of the best. But still I think if there is going to be talk of such a thing as a "Black Mecca" then the lives of even the "least of these" should be positively affected by all this migration and concentration of wealth, education and talent. Is there even such a place like this that exists, which promotes and acheives this balance?
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:33 PM
 
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And you would be wrong on that point.

The issue is that some of us are actually trying to stay on topic since the subject of the thread is about Black America as opposed to just one individual's preference. And then you've thrown out tons of misinformation in the thread as well.



So is DC "at the top of the heap" and "offers the biggest balance" or is it the ONLY city that offers both as you've been saying throughout this thread? Now you seem to be changing your tune.
You know what, I'm not going to waste my time with this retarded debate any longer. I will defend myself from your ignorant claim though. I said that Atlanta's personal income had dropped which it did, so that was not misinformation as you tried to claim.


Personal Income in the 2000s: Top and Bottom Ten Metropolitan Areas | Newgeography.com
http://www.clevelandfed.org/research...8/02regact.cfm

O...and there are countless threads about this on the Atlanta forum. Here is just one of them with your residents bickering about how the only job increases are really in the service sector like Target cashiers. These debates go on in your forum all the time. Do you ever venture over there?
Metro Atlanta No. 2 in Job Growth

Atlanta has definitely received a population boom, but economically, not so much. The wealth in Atlanta is fading and the city is not attracting the educated populace it once did anymore. It's not on par with D.C. for jobs, education, or income. Everyone is talking about it except you I guess.

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Old 04-01-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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Muntiny, after the last few posts, I am through debating with this guy. He sees things in a very skewed manner. All reason and logic has been cast aside to prove the superiority of DC in every caterogory.
I agree.

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While I would not like to debate which city is the "capital of Black America" (cause I don't know), I think many cities might offers something for any African-Americans. And Atlanta is of course is considered one of the best. But still I think if there is going to be talk of such a thing as a "Black Mecca" then the lives of even the "least of these" should be positively affected by all this migration and concentration of wealth, education and talent. Is there even such a place like this that exists, which promotes and acheives this balance?
I'm not even sure how you'd go about looking at that scientifically on a large-scale level specific for certain metros. Levels of charitable giving will naturally be higher in these cities.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:36 PM
 
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Muntiny, after the last few posts, I am through debating with this guy. He sees things in a very skewed manner. All reason and logic has been cast aside to prove the superiority of DC in every caterogory. While I would not like to debate which city is the "capital of Black America" (cause I don't know), I think many cities might offers something for any African-Americans. And Atlanta is of course is considered one of the best. But still I think if there is going to be talk of such a thing as a "Black Mecca" then the lives of even the "least of these" should be positively affected by all this migration and concentration of wealth, education and talent. Is there even such a place like this that exists, which promotes and acheives this balance?
It's amazing to me how ignorant you seem to be. I have stated nothing but things you also agree with and I have not disagreed with anything you have said.

This is what I have said:

-D.C. is more urban than Atlanta
-New York is more urban than DC
-Black people do chose to live in the suburbs more often than not
-An urban or suburban built environment is not the primary reason many people use when deciding on a home
-Black people moving to Atlanta and DC are doing so for reason's other than the built environment more often than not

Now.......

What exactly did I say that is not true?

What did I say you don't agree with?

What in the #@!! are you talking about saying I have been trying to make DC superior in everything?

***I didn't even answer the retarded question posed by this thread because there is no black capital to begin with. And if it was Atlanta, we need to find a new capital since Atlanta has been annihilated by the recession.***
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