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View Poll Results: Which city is more urban at street level?
Philadelphia 159 40.56%
Chicago 233 59.44%
Voters: 392. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-14-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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No I dont think the stats about population and commercial density are skewed its just Chicago is more urban and dense than Philadelphia. Granted the streets are smaller and buildings seem closer together in philadelphia. But Chicago is physicaly more dense and urban than Philadelphia.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:47 PM
 
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Who cares. Urbanity is overrated.

Urban= Parking tickets, bums, urine soaked subways, expensive everything downtown, the daily grind, running into old acquaintances you'd rather not see, low paying temp jobs, bogus colleges, decrepit tax leaching slums, kids basically raising themselves, bicycling hippies and all kinds of wierdos.

Urban doesn't automatically mean good, for alot of people it actually means poverty.
The upside is that you don't need a car, and have alot of variety in a relatively small area. With that said, Philly and Chicago are both about as urban as an American city can get, outside of NYC. So trying to decide which one is more urban is really just splitting hairs.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Who cares. Urbanity is overrated.

Urban= Parking tickets, bums, urine soaked subways, expensive everything downtown, the daily grind, running into old acquaintances you'd rather not see, low paying temp jobs, bogus colleges, decrepit tax leaching slums, kids basically raising themselves, bicycling hippies and all kinds of wierdos.

Urban doesn't automatically mean good, for alot of people it actually means poverty.
The upside is that you don't need a car, and have alot of variety in a relatively small area. With that said, Philly and Chicago are both about as urban as an American city can get, outside of NYC. So trying to decide which one is more urban is really just splitting hairs.
It's overrated huh? Let's see... where would you rather live/visit/vacation/travel to/see/experience?

This is Philadelphia a couple miles from the downtown core:



And here's Phoenix a couple away:



Yeah get back to me on that.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:35 PM
 
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Philly is EXTREMELY urban, and not necessarily in a good way; some of those rowhouse neighborhoods are pretty awful..
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:41 PM
 
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It's overrated huh? Let's see... where would you rather live/visit/vacation/travel to/see/experience?

This is Philadelphia a couple miles from the downtown core:



And here's Phoenix a couple away:



Yeah get back to me on that.

I used to live in Center City as a teen(among many other places in and around Philly throughout my childhood), I went to college in center city, and I currently have to go there every day for work. PPA practically has a hit out for me.

Don't get me wrong, Philly has one of the nations most vibrant downtowns and thats a good thing for the city and metro. I can see what your saying as far as tourism and stuff, but having to deal with it almost everyday sucks. It gets old. I've been going there(usually not by choice) for as long as I can remember. You sound like someone who is naive to downtown living.

and that Pic of Philly is not a couple miles away from Center city, its in center city.

This is a couple of miles(about 3) away from Center City, in Upper Darby, PA


Please educate yourself.

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Old 10-14-2010, 10:07 PM
 
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I wouldn't put down sunbelt cities for being suburban considering they just recently became big cities. I wish I could see what they'll look like in a couple hundred years, They wouldn't even be recognizable to us as we know them today. Imagine if a Philadelphian from 200 years ago could see their city today. They would be floored.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Philly is EXTREMELY urban, and not necessarily in a good way; some of those rowhouse neighborhoods are pretty awful..

But Some neighborhoods are pretty stupendous as well. Those aerials that were posted look dated perhaps 40-45 years old. I think the average person would be pleasantly surprised if they had the oppurtunity to explore South Philly,West philly and Center City. Meh North Philly not so much.NW Philly is awesome and NE Philly has 300,000 middle class residents and resembles suburbia.











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Old 10-14-2010, 11:00 PM
 
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I'm trying to figure out when Phoenix got in on this one... Chicago vs Philadelphia, but let's add Phoenix and see what happens.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I'm trying to figure out when Phoenix got in on this one... Chicago vs Philadelphia, but let's add Phoenix and see what happens.
It will get real ugly real quick for phoenix
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Old 10-15-2010, 12:50 AM
 
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Easy?? Are you kidding me? Educate yourself first, lol.
This is one of those situations where the smaller city (in population and skyline) is the more urban city. Philly feels more urban to me than Chicago, just like San Francisco feels much more urban than Toronto (an analagous comparison, IMO)
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