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Old 07-18-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Ugh...
Your post doesn't even mention NYC
How is this a vs thread?

And geez. Another chicago vs nyc
No, its another CD (with the help of rebel12) takes a crap on Chicago thread.

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Old 07-18-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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funny...
Maybe for a second, but more sad as this is the act of a desperate man...
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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funny...
...ban
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:11 AM
 
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^^^ New York just priced out it's crime problem. Crime spread to the suburbs and other cities.
I just wonder, how do you price out crime? How do you do that? How does the government raise the prices across the city? I dont think you can do it. You can only raise prices of housing when you have people willing to pay more and the only way to do it is by lowering crime, improving infrastructure and providing jobs.
New York did all of that, first of all, under Gulianni it declared war on crime in NYC, second it cleaned up critical areas like Times Square to bring more tourists (more tourists equals more jobs in hospitality).
New York City change its attitude towards the residents, put value on bringing in and retaining productive part of the society. The rest is history.
"New York just priced out it's crime problem" - sounds so simple but in fact is just simplistic as it does not reflect the multitude of actions that must be taken in order to revitalize the entire city.
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:00 AM
 
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Chicago will never be New York. The sooner it accepts that, the sooner it will see improvements.
That's exactly what I like some much about LA
Never wanted to or wants to be like New York, LA is one of the few large american cities that has never looked up
to New York as a role model, you have to let New York be New York. LA is its own animal, defined by no other city.

Chicago is a great city and in many ways it is a true american city
more so than NY or LA, it represents the US heartland, that's where Chicago strength is.
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:17 AM
 
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I've never heard that Chicago wants to be NY, either. It's just NYers assuming it does.
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:36 AM
 
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I've never heard that Chicago wants to be NY, either. It's just NYers assuming it does.

Most New Yorkers can't assume anything since they never been to Chicago: there is no good reason for any New Yorker to go to Chicago, its not like Chicago is some tourist or cultural attraction on the scale of New York.

Since unlike most people I have been to Chicago I can attest that Chicago since the 90's really tried to become another New York: Millenium Park, the Bean i.e. big, developed parks and promenades and art in public spaces is more typical for New York than Chicago, i.e. are present in New York since Central Park and Statue of Liberty have been put in place.

Of course Chicagoans will never admit that but Chicago has been trying to outdo New York for a long time.
Even this forum can be a proof when people claim Chicago culture, arts or entertainment are on par with New York's.

Unfortunately for Chicago, New York is a still growing and very successful while Chicago is not...
New York is generally considered one of the top three cultural experiences of the Western World while Chicago is not.

When New Yorkers think about competition they usually think about London not Chicago

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Old 07-20-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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Chicago is a great city and in many ways it is a true american city
more so than NY or LA, it represents the US heartland, that's where Chicago strength is.
Since neither LA nor NYC is in the heartland how could these cities represent it?
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:18 AM
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Since unlike most people I have been to Chicago I can attest that Chicago since the 90's really tried to become another New York: Millenium Park, the Bean i.e. big, developed parks and promenades and art in public spaces is more typical for New York than Chicago, i.e. are present in New York since Central Park and Statue of Liberty have been put in place.
Really? Millennium Park feels nothing like anything in New York, and it's very well done in its own way. I like New York better than Chicago but this is silly. I doubt Chicago was consciously thinking deeply about mimicking New York when it built New York, it was just trying to improve the attractiveness of the city center.

It worked well. My mother works in Midtown Manhattan and thought highly of it. "I had something like that near me I would go to it in my lunch hour". Also, Boston Common and Millennium Park are an interesting contrast of old and new city center park; two areas feel like complete opposite.
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:22 AM
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"New York just priced out it's crime problem" - sounds so simple but in fact is just simplistic as it does not reflect the multitude of actions that must be taken in order to revitalize the entire city.
Did NYC really price out crime? Still a lot of poverty there.

Compare with Chicago:

New York City: 20.1%
Chicago: 21.6%

And considering New York City has higher housing costs, being poor there is more painful. And New York City contains the poorest congressional district in the country.
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